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I can see why people would see the funny side but the optics would not look so good if there was a dubious decision for example. I would also question the players intentions on whether it was deliberate to huddle around the ref, not one of them let the referee room for him to escape the huddle...

I think football expects a red card here just like they did for the Dalot tackle on Doku, all this stuff regarding glancing contact to justify a yellow is one where it would lead to inconsistencies as how much is a glancing contact could differ from one ref to another. I feel challenges like...

I guess the flip side to that is any foreign ref that comes here will have to work within the PGMO guidance on how they want their refs to officiate so yes most refs will have to change how they officiate otherwise they won't last very long here. No doubt Gillett had to change when he first...

That's how I see it aswell, I don't think he's as innocent as people make it out to be and there does seem to be a secondary movement as he came down. No idea why VAR would get involved though because I would class it as more reckless than dangerous but it is on the back of the Achilles so that...

I have to agree with Neville's rant on this, officials have been without communication devices long before it came in and survived but it goes to show how much we rely on it in such a big money league that the PL is. It took too long really, unless sky edited the audio, I was quite surprised how...

Shame talksport dropped the 'men in black' feature with Sam Matterface and Chris Foy as I think Sam actually asked the right type of questions and bring up his own arguments in a fair way unlike Jeff Stelling the other day when they talked about this incident and how Jeff shouted down at Chris...

Big cup tie on prime time TV involving two decent size clubs and a referee makes a mistake like that won't be forgotten about in a few weeks time. Of course time moves on and there could be another incident which actually involves VAR which means that will be the story instead again. Im still...

From the bits I seen of Graham Scott on social media, he certainly seems to articulate his points well(like disputing the theory VAR has made referees afraid of making big decisions) but not afraid to be critical when it needs to be. Seems to strike the right balance of not just defending the...

I do think people's dislike for VAR do cloud their judgement though and the stats do prove accuracy goes up to around 98%, I think it also improves player behaviour around the referees because they know a wrong decision usually turns into a correct one or the players accept the decision more if...

I am finding the media reaction to this rather bizarre as in some sections, if you had no idea, you think there was VAR controversy with the usual question of is VAR good for the game and should we keep it, this game in my view enforces why we need it. I get the subjective stuff can be...

Linesman has had a shocker really in this game, usually our linos are really good at spotting offsides especially when I compare it when I watch the European games but whilst there may of been another villa player in the way, it is from a dead ball position, at this level you probably should...

But we don't know for sure the ball was not going to be cleared by the defender though and there was every chance he could of but he was prevented by the foul from Haaland so how can you give City a goal that was not certain? I'm sure if the ball was well in before any foul from Haaland or there...

Has he not done VAR(AVAR?) on UEFA games though? I know Michael Salisbury has and he does not have a badge. Mind you it's confusing because Attwell has a FIFA badge and he never referees any UEFA games, just a VAR for them. It does seem perhaps the VAR has got the law wrong but unless we hear...

It might be right in law(perhaps) but a player gets sent off for denying a goalscoring opportunity despite a goal being scored...

I wish the commentators learn to accept that UEFA has a lower interpretation of handball so that was always going to be given especially as it went to VAR and the referee was never going to reject it. Even our English officials will probably give that because that is what UEFA expects. I think...

This one feels a better defence than Keane's ones was of unintentionally of pulling the hair but I do agree clarity is needed when it comes to whether it's a red or not but then the downside to that, you can create grey areas of how forceful does it need to be to determine the difference between...

I probably wouldn't go that far and I think how the laws are written has clearly caused some confusion even among former referees by the looks of it. I got a suspicion you might be right on your second point though however whilst we may forget about it, Palace fans won't and PGMO always go on...

I know the handball penalty incident has been discussed a touch in the City Wolves thread but I think it's warrants it's own thread as seemingly going by what Dale Johnson is saying, possibly the VAR has misinterpreted the law that led to the referee misinterpreted it aswell although perhaps the...

For me I think the ref made the right decision but not because the arms are supposedly in a natural position but more the fact it's just too close and his arms never moved towards the ball, if say it was quite a bit further back and it still hit his arms whilst in that position I would expect a...

Maybe like Lescott did after the game as he said along the lines I did not know dissent was a red card. I would imagine European refs would be more strict on that type of stuff aswell so pretty daft from the player really.