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I think we agree that 5hit happens, and that the "delay flag" protocol didn't cause the injury. My point is the injury was avoidable in the specific circumstances and wouldn't have occurred with a different protocol.

It wasn't an officiating error and I've never said it was. Sian Massey did nothing wrong.

There is a clear rationale, you just disagree with it. I recognise when different sides of the debate are entrenched and not for changing, so there's little point debating further.

Yes, but it wasn't offside and therefore was not during a phase of play that was going to be called back.

It’s totally fair enough to disagree, but to say the flag or lack thereof had nothing to do with the injury and offering ludicrous comparators to argue against it when the rationale has been clearly explained is pretty feeble.

He’d deserve a little bit trimmed off the sentence.

Correct. What I would say is this. With the media and social media they way it is, the referees performance, decision making and "role" in the outcome of any game is going to be intensely critiqued, massively overblown and subjected to ignorant (in every sense of the word) comment and...

I’ve not blamed the officials at any stage, and very few others have either - the issue is with the directive that allows play to continue wholly unnecessarily.

That's a fatuous comparison.

I did include a link to the clip James.

Of course they’ll complain but that shouldn’t be a reason to keep the status quo. It’s not the first injury, it won’t be the last, and whilst of course you are correct this sort of injury could happen in normal, open play, it didn’t. I’m all for being wary of unintended consequences but this...

Agreed - if I was PFA I'd want the flag. The downside of changing the directive is that it will create another opportunity for officials to be criticised because it will almost certainly lead to the flag going up incorrectly, even if it's only a rarity. It's easy to say to LMA and PFA "you...

Awoniyi in an induced coma following his injury at the weekend. Let's all hope he pulls through. 🙏 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn0g8qyjywjo It's long been talked about that the directive to let the passage of play complete before flagging offside would lead to an injury...

Great reflections @Homer Ref and good advice for newbies. Just finished year three and have occasional days/games where I wonder why I bother. Like you, I’ve stopped doing a certain league (that doesn’t appoint) for a certain club because of the behaviour of their coaches. The very same team...

Fair play. Two schools of thought - start lower and work up or just chuck yourself in at the deep end. Both have plusses and minuses, and it's whatever works for you.

@Tealeaf has dealt with the mistaken identity issue. As for the second YC, here's fan edited list from IFAB's LOTG: Cautions for unsporting behaviour There are different circumstances when a player must be cautioned for unsporting behaviour including if a player: commits in a reckless manner...

For those not bothered to find it online the link to the foul is here. I'm really not sure what the debate is over the RC and any appeal is surely doomed to fail. Player is already going down from being pulled from behind before the player attempts to, and does, play the ball. The only way...

He comes across really well though as usual I'm left to wonder if the north of England has elite refereeing by the short and curlies as they all seem to be from up (sorry, oop) there!* I think AT comes across well and whilst I don't think he's meaning to say that referees have been using VAR as...

100%. Paused the clip fractionally after the whistle has gone and keeper not made the save yet.

Re the penalty that actually stuck, watching on MOTD I’m pretty sure the referee blew immediately and before the header/save. I remember thinking he got lucky that the keeper saved the header otherwise there’d have been chaos.