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    ManU v Liverpool - handball VAR decision

    I’m still not 100% convinced, but I also think the law needs to be revisited. It wasn’t brought in for things like this, rather for incidents where players blatantly scored with their arms. One I can remember is a defender blasted a clearance which hit at attacker on the arm that was by his side...
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    "I'm a ref myself mate..."

    Given I spent so long coaching and managing it was inevitable I had disagreements with referees, but I never used the fact I was a referee to try to justify any points. A lot of times the referees knew I was a senior referee (L4/L3) and would ask me for feedback which I would happily give. In...
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    PSG v Bayern

    Good to see there are zero complaints about the handball in the Forest vs Villa game, both hands above the head leaves zero room for discussion if the ball hits one of them 😂
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    A.Madrid V Arsenal

    I suspect somewhere in the middle of the UEFA and EPL standards
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    A.Madrid V Arsenal

    I don't like the handball penalty, but it is always getting given in UEFA games, pretty sure that wouldn't be given in the EPL. Don't really see much debate about the first Arsenal penalty, it was clumsy by the defender. My view on the second Arsenal penalty is it was soft, but there was...
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    PSG v Bayern

    They are much stricter on FIFA games than in the EPL, perhaps not as strict as UEFA granted but the EPL is almost certainly the most lenient on handling offences.
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    PSG v Bayern

    Like most situations in life and work, the stance taken often comes from the views of the senior managers. Collina and Rosetti want handling penalised whenever the arm is away from the natural silhouette. In contrast Webb says PGMO listen to what the clubs are telling them and therefore aren't...
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    PSG v Bayern

    Because the heads of FIFA and UEFA refereeing have told referees to be strict on handling. Whereas Howard Webb has done the opposite. That’s why you’ll see the English FIFA badges referees judging handball decisions completely differently in the EPL than the ECL.
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    Level 3/4 Pathway Choice

    That's correct, you can only request data that they hold on you. How you compare to other people, position in merit tables, etc, clearly isn't specific to you so isn't covered by SAR laws.
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    this could be damaging - false or true

    Ongoing potential legal case so not appropriate to be discussing. Will happily unlock once concluded.
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    PSG v Bayern

    In England that won't be given, in Europe it always will be. I don't like it, but they are at least consistent with it.
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    Level 3/4 Pathway Choice

    That isn't how it is supposed to work though, 8.3 / 8.4 is the expected mark for a standard performance regardless of the level of the game or referee. Using your logic a referee observer who operated in both his country's top division and on UEFA games would be giving out higher marks on the...
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    Level 3/4 Pathway Choice

    Don't understand the 9.9 comment? If it was truly using the FIFA marking system, to get 7.4 you'd need multiple incorrect KMDs (or many more individual minor errors than any referee should ever make in a game).
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    Level 3/4 Pathway Choice

    I've never really understood why England don't use the FIFA marking system like most other countries do. Start at 8.3 / 8.4, lose 0.1 for minor errors, drop to 7.9 for incorrect KMDs, gain 0.1 for doing good things, etc. I've over simplified it, but it seems to work fine everywhere else so I...
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    Brentford vs Fulham - Hair Pulling

    I was just pointing out that the two scenarios were very different, and continually trying to compare one situation with another is neither helpful nor valid when they are very different. Clearly my post had zero fan nonsense given my team are on minus 3 points and don't even get close enough...
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    Brentford vs Fulham - Hair Pulling

    He holds his head and falls over if anyone goes anywhere near him. What I meant is when he has had his hair pulled previously he has made sure everyone knew about it, racing after the referee, he didn't do anything like that this time.
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    Brentford vs Fulham - Hair Pulling

    Apart from he didn't pull his hair though, his hand made contact with the hair. There was no reaction by Cucurella, and let's face it there would be if he had his hair pulled, you don't see the head move like you would do for a hair pull, there really is nothing to see here. Whereas Martinez...
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    OFFINABUS

    A caution is correct here, he hasn't really used any language that could be deemed as OFFINABUS. Would be a real stretch to say that a player agreeing with a comment another player made could be classed as that.
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    Cubs marks and position

    Leagues will generally offer to provide this at the end of the season if you want it. They will probably be reluctant to provide it more frequently as it creates extra workload, and may also let you know which clubs have marked you down. I know of one referee from years ago who was told a very...
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    Haaland Whoop Band

    Wonder if other City players had one on, obviously wouldn't know unless they take their shirts off. Could fall under the EPTS part of law 4?
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