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    1st we had a youth league offering £ incentives now clubs too!

    I reported a little while ago Youth league incentives i.e. do so many matches and we pay you a bonus, now we have clubs offering to pay extra to ref their matches such is the desperation to get a ref - if only half these clubs presented with more respect they may get more refs! I already have a...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    i found the responses very insightful thank you everyone took trouble to reply
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    didnt mean that level of thown in detail but what about paying fans being given an explanation by the ref or are they below him and not worthy of getting an explanation
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    I think as a community officials dont help themselves. Take VAR where a fan at homes discovers the outcome before a fan in the stadium. The official the doesnt explain to stakeholders the reason. I think its reasonable for all stakeholders to know the refs decision else whats being hidden will...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    What was happening in that period between the checks was a respected and experienced match official giving the ground staff every opportunity to make the field of play playable. There are protocols in place at that level, giving the match officials full instructions about the procedures to be...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    I respectfully disagree re "The Referee at Crawley was the subject of varying circumstances which were not of his making." nothing was changing between the penultimate check and final check when a decision was made - why delay a further 30 mins no one has argued why this would happen other than...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    "And given the sheer power these broadcasters hold I am far from convinced that the referee would be fully backed by the FA / EPL / EFL / WSL / PGMOL if they complained about them not giving the game a chance to go ahead." thats worrying to read though not surprised to read it. This ref though...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    If the ref delays the call knowing full well he will call it off then surely this isnt in the best spirit of the game and if stakeholders knew that was the case they would be even more annoyed. As a ref whether a club loses TV money for example whats that got to do with me? Not my issue, not my...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    I thought it was an interesting situation as the home club had called off a game earlier in the season because of safety concerns re the weather; yet there appears to have been no attempt to make an early call despite forecast being absolutely guarantee of bad weather. Ive seen footage of the...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    or 20 mins football is better than none? Im sure we've all played matches 50/50 and they do complete.
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    on londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/charlton-athletic-boss-jones-disappointed-as-league-one-fixture-against-crawley-town-suffers-late-postponement/ the Charlton manager says of the ref: "To be fair to the ref he gave it every chance and his decision was based off the forecast – not the conditions...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    I understand the pressure applied but you could argue that goes on all the time and there is (sorry cant find it) but I recall this ref writing something about being a Prison officer and that dealing with the pressure of players etc as being a ref was easier etc. Whether it was/wasn't playable...
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    Crawley Town versus Charlton Athletic called off 20 mins before kick off

    Not quite sure what section this fits in but it was supposed to be on TV. Crawley Town versus Charlton...
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    Shaming Refs & Financial incentive to Ref (in addition to match fees)

    Do you think that is likely to be presented in such a way to not deflate current refs confidence?
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    Shaming Refs & Financial incentive to Ref (in addition to match fees)

    I find reference to a chip on my shoulder very offensive. Have a re-think who you are talking to, sterotypical references and I await your response.
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    Shaming Refs & Financial incentive to Ref (in addition to match fees)

    I can see that makes logic sense all im saying is financial incentives i believe cannot work alone and whilst e.g. cup finals aren't generally paid and yet get the trophy instead etc. plus expenses after a while there is only so much free kit you need, so what else do you use. For me, I would...
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    Shaming Refs & Financial incentive to Ref (in addition to match fees)

    I dont ref for the money as long as expenses covered im not bothered what bothers me is a lack of respect in the game and judgmental attitudes such as comments such as (this isnt exactly it but not far from mark) "some refs change their minds after committing to appointments that causes grief...
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    Shaming Refs & Financial incentive to Ref (in addition to match fees)

    Yes I remember the FMOA incentive scheme. What it struck me is the league is struggling to get refs ( Im reliably informed the coverage is very low well under 50% weekly) but for me, I think if you want to attract and retain refs then the respect in the game has to improve and improve on a...
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    Shaming Refs & Financial incentive to Ref (in addition to match fees)

    Its a youth league I rather not say if thats ok
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    Shaming Refs & Financial incentive to Ref (in addition to match fees)

    Bonus for reffing so many matches per season, more you ref the more you get a bonus. Obviously its a reasonable number something like 75% of 100% of season so guess allows for postponements etc. Bonus paid by league to refs that basically commit and carry through appointments. If other...
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