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Their very young. Do you want to be introducing complexity to children so young? Heading it might be a indirect free kick, or it might not! As a ref I would give an indirect free kick. As a coach of a kids team in an age group that is affected by this rule, I would expect one because it is...

From the FA.

Not an answer to the point. The times are at the levels I ref at that is not a penalty. Non contact football is a movement the kids and adults playing it would not want.

Yes it is the way it works. I would get destroyed if i'm giving that in the physical grass roots football I ref. I am not giving fouls and penalties for that. Nothing reckless, no malice, honest attempt to get the ball, he got his shot off, in the box you expect to see what is called in coaching...

I'm in trouble if I get the players round before a game and tell them if you challenge for the ball and fail to get it and make contact I will blow for a foul every time. With having to remove arms to avoid handball and no contact football this is not the football that football wants at the...

A odd element of this rule change is that dribble ins/kick ins have more value than corner kicks and frequently free kicks. Coached one game with what will be u8's and its added a lot of variables. That complexity is confusing for children.

I think you are being unfair because UEFA reference arms, therefore they must exist, but the interpretation is out of possession players should magic their arms away, then magic them back.

Its nonsense. Spot the player with his arms in the unnatural position. Its the player with his arms behind his back. This is not a normal movement. We do not play football with our arms behind our body. Football should not look like that.

And the player thus must move away from what are natural body positions for that specific situation, and move to a position that is wholly unnatural. Bipedal humans move with the use of their arms. EUFA perhaps should attempt playing football with their arms taped behind their backs.

Handball is not handball as his arm is in a natural position. Humans are bipeds. We do not move without moving our arms.

I think its the maximum punishment. Threatening kids is abuse. Threatening a child referee is abuse. Why is abusing a minor a slap on the wrist? If a teacher, or care worker did similar to a child they lose their jobs and get put on the dbs barring system so they cannot work with the...

What was the outcome? I know of a young ref who was threatened by a Manager of a kids team and the FA ban for Improper Conduct against a Match Official (a child) that included including threatening and abusive language and behaviour was . . . . . . . Six months. £70 fine and some online...

I would like to see what this looks like in reality. The retreat line exists to encourage team play. This rule change appears to encourage little Braydon/Jaydon/Kaydon (every team has one or two with those names now) to belt balls down the pitch players will have to avoid heading! Edit ...

https://www.thefa.com/news/2024/may/17/new-heading-rules-for-grassroots-football-youth-matches As a ref and coach there is quite a lot to get my head around.

I agree no penalty. Is there any guidance on the positions of arms in walls?

I was interested in positions v shoulders, and when I looked at previous guidance started to have doubts that my understanding was 100%. Thanks.

Yes, I actually watch Bristol Manor Farm more often than BCFC but I use the forum as a means to understand and improve my reffing. I might come across this one, and I'm not giving it, but I want to be 100%. Handball wording has altered several times in years. ifab had guidance about offences...

I am saying no penalty but Refs does the height of the players hand above his shoulder alter the decision?

Justifiable?

He (the defender) is too close to the ball and his arm is not in a unnatural position. So no.