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    SOU - TOT

    It's difficult to see a justification in the written law to justify not giving a penalty, although it seems to be very rare you see handball penalised in the PL (aside from attacking players.)
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    Van Dijk handball and VAR

    I don't know if it even hit his arm. Sky suggested VAR had said it was inconclusive. I don't think it would be regarded as handball anyway. Lallana got the assist so surely he was the one who created the opportunity to score the goal? I agree that it's not fully clear wording but certainly if...
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    Liverpool v Wolves

    Although I think the only reason they have this system is because the technology required wasn't in place for the start of the previous MLS season and they have made adjustments with a view to probably bringing the technology used in the PL and other leagues in for next season. I think that...
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    VAR decision done correctly

    To some extent, refereeing has to lead the education from within. There are so many platforms now that can be used to provide your perspective and try and educate people. I don't think it would take too long for people to start adjusting. I'm not a regular rugby watcher but when I see a World...
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    Referee Explaining Decisions

    Yeah. They do the Inside Video Review thing in America where they go through a range of decisions (both right and wrong), offer explanations for them and let you hear some of the audio. I think something like that is long overdue in England. They could do it on their own terms and have the time...
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    VAR decision done correctly

    I think it's the fact we can hear the audio that makes this work effectively rather than necessarily the use of the monitors. I'm easy either way with the use of pitchside monitors - if the referee had produced a red card without looking I'd have bene ifne with that too. I think the ideal in...
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    Arse v Chels

    Pretty clear yellow card in my view.
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    Wolves v Citee

    Yes, if the attacking player who encroached scored from the rebound and there were players from both teams encroaching, it would be retaken. If the attacking player didn't score then it wouldn't be though.
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    Unusual situation introduced by VAR

    As mentioned, if it had been a foul inside the area they'd have gone back for offside. As the foul was outside the area and not a penalty/red card etc VAR couldn't get involved. Equally, if the offside player had scored the goal would have been disallowed by VAR, but if he'd had a shot saved...
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    TH v Chelsea

    I don't think refereeing has really got worse since VAR was intervened. It's just down to perception. I'm sure that some decisions have been affected slightly by VAR being in place but it's not as if referees never missed obvious penalties etc. previously VAR couldn't be used for the offside...
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    TH v Chelsea

    Do you not think Michael Oliver has a good chance too?
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    TH v Chelsea

    I definitely think he's in the top 10 - I'd put him comfortably in the top 5 and it looks very likely he'll be going to the Euros. It is a bit of a worrying trend that he's needed VAR to intervene four times in December alone though.
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    Shelvey goal vs Sheff Utd

    Why would he book Shelvey when play was still active?
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    Shelvey goal vs Sheff Utd

    PL assistants are told to flag early. There wasn't a clear goal-scoring opportunity anyway at the point when Carroll jumped for the flick-on. I've no problem at all with what the officials did last night.
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    Shelvey goal vs Sheff Utd

    Personally I much prefer the PL's policy than the one in the CL/WWC, etc. where hte assistants wait for ages even though a player was two yards offside. At least in the PL the assistants are stillseen to be actively making a decision and indicating the most likely outcome. Players will have to...
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    Merseyside Derby

    Not a penalty for me. I thought Mike Dean had a very good match. Still one of our best.
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    NOR v ARSE

    But VAR intervention isn't 'no matter what the outcome' - it would be fine if it did that. VAR will never intervene if the penalty is scored directly, even if both teams had players encroaching. Thus, it's not a balanced implementation. The initial outcome has to be the goalkeeper saves the...
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    NOR v ARSE

    Oh there's no doubt that the VAR protocol is clear. My point is that the balance seems unfiar in the application. Last week, an attacking player scored from a rebound and the penalty was retaken because there were also defenders who had encroached. This week, a defending player cleared the...
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    NOR v ARSE

    Well, I'd suggest the reason it is quite rarely penalised is because it's quite rare that a goalkeeper saves a penalty, the ball remains in play and either: a. an attacking player who has encroached scores the rebound b. a defending player who has encroached is able to immediately clear the...
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    NOR v ARSE

    It was always very rare that encroachment was penalised before VAR was introduced though. The general principle of: Attacker encroaches - indirect free kick (if missed) or retake (if penalty directly scored) Defender encroaches - penalty retaken (if missed) or goal stands (if penalty scored)...
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