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  1. M

    Off the ball incidents

    No I agree, as I said in my earlier post I am sure that given the same situation we would both do the same thing, in essence it's the terminology that is the issue here as I said, there can be no instance of careless or reckless violent conduct.
  2. M

    Off the ball incidents

    I never said anything off the ball isn't a foul at all, I said violent conduct is off the ball. There is simply no instance of careless or reckless violent conduct, none. The examples you used is not violent conduct, but you continue to try and use it as a means to justify what you are saying...
  3. M

    Off the ball incidents

    But he hasn't tried to strike an opponent, that's not an example of so called careless violent conduct as is being suggested here, he was just challenging for the ball. VC is a deliberate attempt to hurt or injury another player through physically hitting or attempting to hit them, be it a...
  4. M

    Off the ball incidents

    I am at a loss as to how you can somehow believe a player can carelessly strike an opponent. There is no measurement bar for striking an opponent off the ball. As I have said the only one that carries any kind of barometer is pushing an opponent. You can quote definitions from the book all you...
  5. M

    Off the ball incidents

    Again you are blurring the lines here. If the ball is in play at the other end of the pitch and the keeper kicks the CF are going to think of it as a foul are you? No it's violent conduct. The fact that the ball is in play is irrelevant, other than how you are going to restart play. You can't...
  6. M

    Off the ball incidents

    Some of you seem to be getting confused between foul play and violent conduct. Violent conduct is act committed off the ball and is deemed to be excessive force or brutality. There is nothing in there about careless, reckless or excessive force. There is absolutely no justification for kicking...
  7. M

    Gibraltar v Macedonia

    Aside from the kick off looking a bit ropey I.e. Same player touches it twice maybe but hard to tell from distance, perfectly legitimate goal and I would be perfectly happy to allow this myself. We cannot control what the players do and if they have re-entered their own half then so be it. I...
  8. M

    keeper in a cap

    An outfield player should not wear a cap, keepers are allowed as they don't head the ball as such etc I guess. Remember though in the OPs instance where the keeper has run up to an opponents area to attack if he has his cap in his hand then the cap becomes an extension of said hand, even if he...
  9. M

    6-5 assessments

    Here's the assessors handbook https://www.armyfa.com/~/media/CountySites/armyfa/documents/referees/fa-assessors-handbook.ashx Having just succeeded at this promotion I found a couple of things really. Positioning was the first key point, where as you may have been advised previously on...
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    Did this today

    As Alex says, I was once told it always better for your first caution to be for a physical offence likes a reckless challenge rather than a technical offence. Technical cautions go either two ways for players, they know the law and are quite happy to circumnavigate it if they can or don't know...
  11. M

    US amateur match abandoned

    What an awful refs kit. Glad I don't have to wear that rubbish.
  12. M

    Typical Sunday league Mass confrontation

    What horrible cheap shot kicking the guy in the head, horrid.
  13. M

    Diversity

    Just because negative discrimination exists and some minorities suffer as a result of it doesn't mean we should become a nation where by we over emphasis people's religion etc in some wired attempt to over compensate. That doesn't solve the root cause of the problem, just makes people appear to...
  14. M

    Very sad

    I've never understood why level 7s are having part of their promotion based on club marks. Surely the clubs involved at their level are to low to be taken seriously, I.e. Pub league teams. I can understand when you get to supply league levels etc as the players/managers are "supposed" to have an...
  15. M

    Open Goal and The Bird

    Without meaning to go off topic, I would like to believe that is a good analogy to use, but sadly having seen numerous video clips on Facebook etc, the Police no longer seem to care about being sworn at etc.
  16. M

    Can a substitute return to the game?

    Just don't run backwards to the halfway line like a certain other ref, literally he does it from anyway on the pitch when they want a sub lol.
  17. M

    Very sad

    Only thing you can do really is raise it the next society meeting, doubtful bringing it up with after the game would work out well.
  18. M

    Can a substitute return to the game?

    Ah see if you had conducted your substitution at the halfway line like you are supposed to he could have corrected his equipment before entering the FOP ;).
  19. M

    Open Goal and The Bird

    That's fine just my opinion, i still think it's hard to be black or white about this subject on a forum as it's impossible to convey things in text properly. To try and explain it differently I will use some examples: Example 1: blue player receives a late reckless tackle from red player and...
  20. M

    Open Goal and The Bird

    I have to say my gut is telling me that I wouldn't bin him for sticking two fingers up at an opponent, that seems ridiculously soft to me. Free kick and booking yes but not red for me. Maybe this is the society issue that has been discussed, also given that the environment I work in where...
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