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    Coaches not knowing the LOTG

    Cheers mate. Just had a long chat with the refs sec of the league to see whether this team has form. Turns out a level 4 ref refuses to ref them. Speaks volumes.
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    Coaches not knowing the LOTG

    Out of interest, what was said so that you sin binned and sent off? I was yc for reckless today when the player said that's fecking rubbish I got the ball, that's ****e, introduced hand movement. So added a sin bin which turned into a red when he shouted you're a fecking ****. He then squared...
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    Swearing

    I've discussed this issue with my County Referees Development Officer (CRDO). This followed a mixed opinion of views last night at my Refs Association meet. My CRDO is of the opinion that you can award an IDFK for loudly swearing, without issuing a sanction. This is because under Law 12. The...
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    Swearing

    I read that as what the caution would be for IF I wanted to caution. The option is clearly there not to caution at all.
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    Swearing

    I was nearly certain that the reply would be as was emailed to you One. However, this is what happened: David Thanks again for your response. Just to confirm one further point please. In the situation that I outlined, an IDFK is awarded for ‘other verbal offence’. Under the cautions list, I...
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    Swearing

    Thanks One. A month's a long time in football! Perhaps David Elleray's saying that the 'spirit' includes verbal offences that are not listed in Law 12 and would therefore include my situation. What I would've wanted him to clarify on was the YC/RC point but I don't think my question was as...
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    Swearing

    Many thanks for all the responses. Really appreciated. Got me thinking that I’d just made a new law up – which probably wouldn’t have been the first time. Having re-read Law 12, I was either originally told or perhaps just assumed, that other verbals included the situation I outlined above...
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    Your Marks Will Be Low

    Wondered what referees’ views were on the suggestion by a player that your marks will be low. I had an incident in my first OA game last Sunday for several years, in which a player, who wasn’t backward in coming forward, suggested my marks will be low, following my sin binning of his massive...
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    I found him... LWR!!

    Absolutely. For me, a black shirt and badge means something, i.e. you have gone through a course and have knowledge of the LOTG. It's something to be proud of. A bit like a professional qualification - a standard has been met. The same can be said of a coaching badge, although some of these...
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    I found him... LWR!!

    This type of reasoning perpetuates poor reffing. There should be a mandatory course at the start of every season to keep up to date with the games. Certain leagues in Worcestershire won't appoint you if you haven't attended a pre-season update course.
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    Swearing

    First OA game at grassroots for a while at the weekend. I was astonished at the low level constant swearing going on. All this wouldn't particularly bother me except for the fact that there was a junior game about to start on the next pitch. A lot of it was said when the ball was out of play...
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    Pushing in the back from high balls

    In answer to the OP, I always tend to nip these things in the bud. I had a couple of early on nudges on high balls but as one's leaning back and one forward then no issue. Once arms are raised and there's a little push, that's when I blow and players know they're not going to get away with it.
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    Pushing in the back from high balls

    Do you actually say 'hands down' whilst the ball is in play? Reason for asking is that I was recently watching an experienced ref on a Sunday local game and he would often say 'easy' or 'keep it calm' as there was a potential 50:50 challenge. I've not particularly noticed referees do that...
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    Club Linesman

    My daughter did her third middle yesterday. No chance of the away CAR giving a dodgy offside flag. She had to go up to him to ask him to put his phone away as he was checking the Villa score and not looking at the game!
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    I found him... LWR!!

    Me too. I'm being underpaid.
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    Another sin bin question...

    Kes, appreciated your response. Your comment 'a sudden or unexpected card is punitive rather than educational'. I suppose YHTBT 25 years ago but the player knew what he had said, and he also knew he was taking the pIss (or rather showing more dissent etc) when he followed it up with his second...
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    Another sin bin question...

    You've disappointed me Kes. I had you down as a stand for no nonsense ref. :D On a serious note, you've caveated the cards by leaving it up to the ref, which of course I agree with. The bit that always sounds odd to me is when you then discuss the 'management' part as STFU - and that if he...
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    On a hiding to nothing

    With the usual 'fair tackle', 'that's ok' comments, but if that's not working then a sharp blast and a discussion with the latest moaner usually helps all players to focus and stop larging it. If it still continues, maybe a word with the captains. Out of interest, what were your instructions to...
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    Another sin bin question...

    Thank you for taking the time to reply. I’m quietly pleased you would have done the same thing given the same set of circumstances 25 years ago. TBH though, what I did on the that day was to just follow the LOTG as I’d been taught to. I suspect that some referees would have just smiled off...
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    Live Napo

    The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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