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This thread has been a bit derailed by discussions about blaming this SPECIFIC AR - which I don't do in my OP. My point is this is yet ANOTHER clear example of this behaviour being ignored. @RustyRef is right that this comes from the top and will only change if that messaging changes, but most...

Yeah maybe in the moment people are like “wtf”. Just like they are with all the other laws they don’t understand. Then it comes out what was said and people go “oh fair enough” or a small minority will go “bit woke you can’t scream **** off in someone’s face”. See the Fulham implosion for a good...

Not a contradiction. Failing to punish this behaviour encourages it. Backing other referees means not being last week’s ref.

If you defend the lack of sanctioning for a player screaming “**** off” in an ARs face because he’s “annoying” or whatever then you cannot pop up in here when it happens to a newly qualified 19 year old. Because the former feeds the latter and it’s a “man’s game” after all.

I just don't think finding this offensive makes you any less of a man.

"mans game" is totally meaningless as a phrase. Maybe "****ing move" is fine but repeatedly being told to **** off is not going to fly

About 3-4 times he should be off for this, looking forward to more baffled players at Tier 4 when I send someone off for this because it doesn't happen in these games. Frustrating.

Going to start counting in this voice

At the women’s national league conference last weekend we were told to count aloud

Panic!!!

Except that natural desire to seek out those who look and sound like us has resulted in the unequal society - very easy as a white man to say "can't we all just get along"!

Many CFAs do this and given what @RustyRef says about CFA finances I assume they wouldn't do it if it didn't yield results!

Okay but do you have a better solution? Because training people to not have racial bias and asking people nicely hasn't moved the needle at all...

This is a CFA acting independently, not the FA. Other CFAs have run discounted courses in poorer areas or for those in care in the past! CFAs are definitely not well off, the argument that the FA is is tenuous at best too. I'd accept the FA showed anti white bias for this one (1) discounted...

If it’s poor implementation - the exact issue you appear to have with this CFA scheme - then why bring it up as a better option?

I mean - the policy uses “job your parents had as a teen” which means teachers and teaching assistants don’t count but a plumber who has millions and owns his own business would have kids who would be considered working class. So like the bame policy it potentially benefits wealthy people and...

Nothing to do with the narrative fitting or not. Wrong sport, wrong forum. Since we are just copy pasting other members posts Edit: a test match squad is 15! Not ten 😂 so it’s less and there have been several changes between tests so it’s less than 20

That’s the same as saying only BAME refs could do the course 😂

Why are you engaging with my reply to someone else?

1. Define wokeness for me 2. How is it being shut down? People can reply, no one is threatened with bans. People are just disagreeing.