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I wish the commentators learn to accept that UEFA has a lower interpretation of handball so that was always going to be given especially as it went to VAR and the referee was never going to reject it. Even our English officials will probably give that because that is what UEFA expects. I think...

This one feels a better defence than Keane's ones was of unintentionally of pulling the hair but I do agree clarity is needed when it comes to whether it's a red or not but then the downside to that, you can create grey areas of how forceful does it need to be to determine the difference between...

I probably wouldn't go that far and I think how the laws are written has clearly caused some confusion even among former referees by the looks of it. I got a suspicion you might be right on your second point though however whilst we may forget about it, Palace fans won't and PGMO always go on...

I know the handball penalty incident has been discussed a touch in the City Wolves thread but I think it's warrants it's own thread as seemingly going by what Dale Johnson is saying, possibly the VAR has misinterpreted the law that led to the referee misinterpreted it aswell although perhaps the...

For me I think the ref made the right decision but not because the arms are supposedly in a natural position but more the fact it's just too close and his arms never moved towards the ball, if say it was quite a bit further back and it still hit his arms whilst in that position I would expect a...

Maybe like Lescott did after the game as he said along the lines I did not know dissent was a red card. I would imagine European refs would be more strict on that type of stuff aswell so pretty daft from the player really.

Anderson had that reaction he was expecting a yellow card to come out so clearly he must of at least sworn to the ref but how severe it was or whether he was implying the ref was bias might of what made it a red card. I thought the first Forest pen was a nailed on pen, clear foot contact...

Would be better if they do the review show in such a way that they can show more incidents? We really don't need on every show Owen explaining who is speaking and when the ref is speaking, we also don't fully need Owen faffing around on the touchscreen either.

To be fair to Keith Hackett 3 former PL referees thought it was a red card(Dean, Gallagher and Foy) so Webb is clearly in the minority here even among former colleagues. I do understand what he says however when this perhaps should remain as refs call whichever way it goes as it does feel more...

My issue is however, say in the scenario a referee issues a second yellow for simulation but there was contact but perhaps not enough for a penalty(given the higher threshold), would you not want the VAR to intervene on that basis? We will never know if the VAR intervened here because the ref...

I'm not a fan of using this glancing blow as an excuse not to penalise as serious foul play/potentially endangering the opponent. We can't be encouraging knee high challenges with a straight leg and because it may of only graze the knee means it's not dangerous.

However VAR supposedly can't overrule on yellow cards so the VAR can only judge whether they think the ref made a clear and obvious error in not awarding a penalty. For me, I'm happy with an intervention on this, even if it's not fully in protocol because the ref has made a clear and obvious...

Well if we want consistency then I'll link to the mic'd up clip of Chelsea Spurs where a Tottenham player had a goal disallowed as there was a glancing contact on the knee which the on field ref was going to go red card for but the VAR told him to consider it reckless which was then backed up by...

I hope Dale is wrong but I suspect he's not because we all know from past experience that Howard Webb only cares about the stakeholders/people in the game over the laws of the game so it would not surprise me in the slightest if he instructed his VAR if anything similar occurs then stick with...

Agreed and for them to get rid of this 5cm tolerance line also and accept offside is offside even if it's just by a nose. The fact the PL/PGMO claimed this is the best tech in the world is proving to be a bit embarrassing to be honest. I also need to point out Dale Johnson's comments that the...

It's ridiculous that they have not seemingly sorted out the SAOT in crowded situations, this issue happened last season at Bournemouth and almost a year later it still exists. However it must be pointed out this is a good VAR intervention because it's correct in law and I will have no doubt...

I think Moyes is perhaps trying too see it as I do in that is a small tug like that really violent conduct and warrants a 3 match ban or is it just more unsportsmanlike? Nevertheless the fact he says it's accidental and the VAR should be embarrassed for telling the ref to come to the screen is...

The red card is spot on in law but i would like too see it changed when the pull is minimal and for it to be a yellow for petulance/unsportsmanlike like conduct. If the hair pull occured when players are running or it's a proper aggressive tug then red all day as that can be classed as violent...

Or as Dale Johnson says, the TV broadcast point of contact when they think the ball has been kicked and the VAR's version can potentially not match up leading to potential situations like this where one frame rate could make the difference between looking offside and being level. Blame the...

I got to say the decision not to disallow Bournemouth's first goal for a handball has totally baffled me as the ball clearly strikes the goalscorers arm and lead directly to the goal. The VAR had a good look at it but did not intervene but surely in law it has to be disallowed? I'm not too...