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Guimaraes Simulation

Big Cat

Big Cat

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Goes down far too easy in 'the box'. Referee Thomas Bramall admirably blows his whistle and awards a free kick to Leicester City
Not one minute later, same player is Cautioned for clear Reckless Play
I thought, 'sh1t', he's off. But no, he hadn't been cautioned for Simulation
Naturally commentators blissfully unaware and may not even get a mention on MOTD later, but I'd be grateful if anyone can please tell me that an Elite Referee is not capable of such a completely unacceptable wrongdoing and that it was me who was somehow mistaken
A facile 4-0 win hinged on this KMI as it was 0-0 at the time. As 'dodgy' as the channel I watched the game on
 
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Cop out then. It was clear Simulation. A scourge on the game and an absolute priority to eradicate
Better than being blatantly wrong in Law I suppose. The lesser of two evils

I'm not Ref bashing as such. But it would be unfathomable for a referee to reach the EPL and be guilty of such a crime
Thomas Bramall otherwise looks the part, which is my 'Number One Competency'. He remained adroitly anonymous in the game aside from this incident
 
FirsFox40 said:
Did he penalise the more serious offence; penal over technical?
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The more serious offence is the one that requires a Caution. Why overcomplicate this. It was cheating. Punish the cheating. It's a scourge
Punishing HB is a cop out, if that is indeed what he did
 
They aren’t simultaneous, either— the simulation occurred first and is the only reason he is on the ground with the ball. ( I was pondering if “advantage could be a get out of jail card here, but no, I think even if he playyed advantage, the caution would be shown at the next stoppage. So if this, hypothetically, happened in the other PA, it could be a PK for handling, applying advantage to the simulation, but showing the caution for simulation after stopping play for the PK.)
 
Johnson said:
There is contact on Guimaraes that was, in my opinion and presumably in the opinion of the referee, enough for Guimaraes to go down but not enough for a foul. Therefore, the only offence committed was the handball.
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How's that not a foul then?
 
Cucurella went down clutching his face as if he'd been snipered from the crowd.
He turned and fell over.
This stopped a promising attack for a late push for equaliser by Brentford.

Another Chelsea player went down earlier in game holding his head forcing the game to be stopped when no contact with his head was made by anyone.

Seems a lot of players are still trying to deceive referees even with VAR.
 
RustyRef said:
Because contact doesn't always equal foul. Players are trained from very young ages to feel contact and fall over, that doesn't mean we should be rewarding them with free kicks and penalties.
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If contact is 'enough for someone to go down' it's a foul.
 
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