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Time-Wasting From Multi-Player Goal Kick Routine

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Lucarelli99

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A team is a goal up in the dying moments of the game, they take forever on a goal kick and you will naturally look to reach for a yellow. However, they are operating a goal kick system whereby the keeper and two defenders all line up on the edge of the penalty area and it is unclear who will take said goal kick. Who do you book?
 
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I don't think booking all 3 would go down too well.

I had a situation earlier this season where nobody from a team that were deliberately winding the clock down presented themselves to take a throw in. I ended up cautioning the closest player to where the throw should be taken from and it was generally accepted by all...

...or at least until the player committed a stone wall reckless foul 3 minutes later...
 
JamesL said:
In theory... Yes.
In practice... I wouldn't advocate for it.
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Reminded me of a very funny clean and friendly U13/14 match I was watching about ten years ago. One side were just always offside, every time the ball went forwards, yards off. Ref showed the yellow card to all 11 players in the pitch from that team in one go - pointing and waving the card - about 45 mins in. Don’t think anything ever came of it, but even thinking about it now I’m giggling remembering the old fella having a meltdown.
 
FirsFox40 said:
Reminded me of a very funny clean and friendly U13/14 match I was watching about ten years ago. One side were just always offside, every time the ball went forwards, yards off. Ref showed the yellow card to all 11 players in the pitch from that team in one go - pointing and waving the card - about 45 mins in. Don’t think anything ever came of it, but even thinking about it now I’m giggling remembering the old fella having a meltdown.
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I think we might have discussed around persistent offending along the lines of a player who is persistently committing offside offences being cautioned..
Not sure it's the intent of the law but seems this chap thought so.
 
And the chap misunderstood the meaning of 'team caution' as well.
One player is cautioned for collective actions of the team. Not all 11.

I also saw a youth game long ago when a ref cautioned the entire team for leaving the FOP without permission when celebrating a goal, in same way of waving the card around, even the one player who stayed on the field went in the book. Then had to send one off when the AR reminded him one player was already in a caution. That game got replayed.
 
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And the chap misunderstood the meaning of 'team caution' as well.
One player is cautioned for collective actions of the team. Not all 11.

I also saw a youth game long ago when a ref cautioned the entire team for leaving the FOP without permission when celebrating a goal, in same way of waving the card around, even the one player who stayed on the field went in the book. Then had to send one off when the AR reminded him one player was already in a caution. That game got replayed.
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A L7 referee was in charge of a game where one of teams were so enraged with his decisions they all walked off. He cautioned all 11 then told them if they didn't come back he would abandon the game. He then cautioned the first 5 to come back and sent them off, then abandoned the game as they had less than 7 players, on the basis they hadn't asked to come back on so didn't have his permission. I know this sounds ridiculous, but it 100% happened.

The appeal hearing, sensibly, ruled that in telling them they had to come back he had already given permission, so the 5 second cautions and subsequent red cards were incorrect.
 
RustyRef said:
A L7 referee was in charge of a game where one of teams were so enraged with his decisions they all walked off. He cautioned all 11 then told them if they didn't come back he would abandon the game. He then cautioned the first 5 to come back and sent them off, then abandoned the game as they had less than 7 players, on the basis they hadn't asked to come back on so didn't have his permission. I know this sounds ridiculous, but it 100% happened.

The appeal hearing, sensibly, ruled that in telling them they had to come back he had already given permission, so the 5 second cautions and subsequent red cards were incorrect.
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That’s bizarre 😂
 
RustyRef said:
A L7 referee was in charge of a game where one of teams were so enraged with his decisions they all walked off. He cautioned all 11 then told them if they didn't come back he would abandon the game. He then cautioned the first 5 to come back and sent them off, then abandoned the game as they had less than 7 players, on the basis they hadn't asked to come back on so didn't have his permission. I know this sounds ridiculous, but it 100% happened.

The appeal hearing, sensibly, ruled that in telling them they had to come back he had already given permission, so the 5 second cautions and subsequent red cards were incorrect.
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Okay some new referees have too much confidence
 
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RustyRef said:
He wasn't new, far from it, he'd been trying for 7 to 6 for years.
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There is an expression I’ve heard about the difference between having 7 years of experience and having the first year of experience 7 times . . . Not everyone grows. Some because they don’t try and some because they aren’t suited to it.
 
socal lurker said:
There is an expression I’ve heard about the difference between having 7 years of experience and having the first year of experience 7 times . . . Not everyone grows. Some because they don’t try and some because they aren’t suited to it.
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Some referees also get into it because they want to court controversy, they want to be at the centre of attention, and this one definitely falls into those categories. There isn't a league left that he can get games on, they've all taken him off their lists, sometimes after mutinies by clubs who have made it clear that if the RefsSec didn't get rid of him he would be voted out of his role.
 
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