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Have to say I loved going to St Mary's last year when they were in the Championship and there was no VAR. Suppose I won't have long to wait to experience that again...!

On a serious note, the above clip has prompted my to ask a question I've been meaning to ask. When a player is on the ground and has the ball either trapped between their legs or under their body, is this covered in the LOTG anywhere? Always seems to result in a stoppage and a dropped ball unless they get rid of it quickly but just wondered if there was anything official?
 
Have to say I loved going to St Mary's last year when they were in the Championship and there was no VAR. Suppose I won't have long to wait to experience that again...!

On a serious note, the above clip has prompted my to ask a question I've been meaning to ask. When a player is on the ground and has the ball either trapped between their legs or under their body, is this covered in the LOTG anywhere? Always seems to result in a stoppage and a dropped ball unless they get rid of it quickly but just wondered if there was anything official?
A player deliberately smothering the ball and not making an immediate attempt to 'dismount' is Playing in a Dangerous Manner (IDFK to opposition) because they're inviting a 'good kicking' upon themselves. This becomes a difficult call when its a defender close to his/her/their own goal
 

A minute of absolute madness!

For the QPR goal:
  • Handball missed by the Sheff W defender on the line from the header?
  • PIADM by the Sheff W defender on the floor?
  • Handball by both Sheff W and QPR player shortly before it dropped and was scored?
I am amazed the ref didn't blow the whistle during the chaos to get control the situation and protect a player from getting a kicking but I am glad he didn't! Most entertaining bit of football i've seen for years!
 

A minute of absolute madness!

For the QPR goal:
  • Handball missed by the Sheff W defender on the line from the header?
  • PIADM by the Sheff W defender on the floor?
  • Handball by both Sheff W and QPR player shortly before it dropped and was scored?
I am amazed the ref didn't blow the whistle during the chaos to get control the situation and protect a player from getting a kicking but I am glad he didn't! Most entertaining bit of football i've seen for years!
I'm not sure it was HB
Bit like Bournemouth 'Shouldergate' against NUFC a few weeks back
Nobody even complains! I don't think anyone has any clue about what just happened. Like shellshock
Yes the Ref could've blown for a 'safe' defensive FK at any time (assuming no DOGSO-HB), but it's refreshing that he didn't!
 
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I'm not sure it was HB
Bit like Bournemouth 'Shouldergate' against NUFC a few weeks back
Nobody even complains! I don't think anyone has any clue about what just happened. Like shellshock
Yes the Ref could've blown for a 'safe' defensive FK at any time (assuming no DOGSO-HB), but it's refreshing that he didn't!
The Wednesday keeper Beadle certainly complained, given there was a QPR player sat on top of him at one point. But a lot to sort out for the officials there and can't really blame them for missing it.

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@The Ginger Ref I don't think you can argue handball. For the record the ball in the screenshot below is moving away from the defender after 1 frame, very obviously touching the peak of his shoulder.

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A player deliberately smothering the ball and not making an immediate attempt to 'dismount' is Playing in a Dangerous Manner (IDFK to opposition) because they're inviting a 'good kicking' upon themselves. This becomes a difficult call when its a defender close to his/her/their own goal
Had exactly the scenario you highlighted @Big Cat in my Dog & Duck game today. Defender just inside box, ball between his legs for really quite some time so I blew and awarded IDFK. Cue modest mayhem and plenty of complaints, not aided by the attacking side scoring.

One reflection, if this happens to me again I'll shout "release it" before blowing for the IDFK, which might hopefully help with game management.
 
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