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    deusex reacted to Viridis1886's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Haha Haha.
    @Gabriel you are a total enigma to me! 😂 I cannot work out if you are 15 or 51; just starting out in refereeing or with the experience...
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    deusex reacted to RustyRef's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Wow Wow.
    Guess that depends on your employment contract and whether you are paid per hour or salaried. In my previous role I worked a lot in...
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    deusex replied to the thread Level 4 - What Happens?.
    You clearly bloody love it, which is great (I genuinely wish I loved it as much). But surely you can see how clubs/leagues will take...
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    deusex reacted to OnlyUseMeWhistle's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Like Like.
    Do you not see how being able to afford to do that is a matter for privilege and not commitment?
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    deusex reacted to JoetheRef's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Like Like.
    I think we all enjoy officiating but would you do it for little-no money?
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    deusex replied to the thread Level 4 - What Happens?.
    Oh absolutely you must enjoy it. But why should they be happy with the money if it's less than minimum wage? We should value our own...
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    deusex replied to the thread Level 4 - What Happens?.
    There's a subtle difference between "wonder how many refs they string along for 10 years at this level" and "all refs at this level are...
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    deusex reacted to OnlyUseMeWhistle's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Like Like.
    This idea people have that talking about money means you're obsessed with or motivated by it is so British. In a country with such low...
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    deusex replied to the thread Level 4 - What Happens?.
    I'm not sure saying "L4 refs should be paid £10 an hour minimum for the time they sacrifice on a Saturday" is quite "I'm motivated by...
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    deusex reacted to OnlyUseMeWhistle's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Like Like.
    Don’t worry I’m perfectly capable of moaning about the fees at level 7 too! 😂 Baffles me that in my old county I’d get paid double the...
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    deusex reacted to GraemeS's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Like Like.
    Exactly. It baffles me how many referees who have been through those higher levels go out of their way to argue in favour of low fees...
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    deusex reacted to GraemeS's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Like Like.
    Not to get too "on a high horse" or anything, but another thing that occurred to me is that poor payment only reinforces a history of...
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    deusex replied to the thread Level 4 - What Happens?.
    As a person that travels for my full-time job, I am ABSOLUTELY paid for my travel time. How could my work send me on a 4hr round trip...
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    deusex reacted to GraemeS's post in the thread Level 4 - What Happens? with Like Like.
    I'm genuinely not having a dig here, because I know this isn't just your opinion and is one shared relatively widely, but you just...
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    deusex replied to the thread Level 4 - What Happens?.
    Very interesting thread this. This sounds like one of those companies that offers unpaid internships with the faint hope of a job at the...
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