Strange Incident

[AmitM]

In my game today, had a player ask me, as a joke, if he managed to catch the ball in-between his shirt and body without using his hands, would it be a foul.
I just laughed with him and walked away, and luckily he didn't try it in the game!, but what law would it actually be breaking?

 

[alexgr]

Nothing explicitly in law about this but I’d be tempted to caution for USB? Spirit of the game and all that…

 

[Max2]

PIADM

 

[AmitM]

PIADM

Completely agree that it should be a caution but why would it be dangerous?

 

[Max2]

Completely agree that it should be a caution but why would it be dangerous?

To themselves. Though other players / opponents are - of course- responsible for their own action(s).

 

[AmitM]

To themselves. Though other players / opponents are - of course- responsible for their own action(s).

Fair enough. I think it's just one of those I pray I never have to deal with

 

[JamesL]

Direct free kick:

• throws an object at the ball, an opponent or a match official, or makes
contact with the ball with a held object

 

[Max2]

Direct free kick:

• throws an object at the ball, an opponent or a match official, or makes
contact with the ball with a held object

Is this along the same lines as throwing your boot at the ball, a keeper throwing his glove, etc?

 

[JamesL]

Is this along the same lines as throwing your boot at the ball, a keeper throwing his glove, etc?

Yes. Same part of law.

 

[Max2]

Yes. Same part of law.

Can always count on you

 

[AmitM]

Direct free kick:

• throws an object at the ball, an opponent or a match official, or makes
contact with the ball with a held object

Thank you!! Would that be a caution as well? If yes then what for?

 

[JamesL]

Thank you!! Would that be a caution as well? If yes then what for?

I think so, meets the criteria for unsporting behaviour imo.

 

[Max2]

Don't think I'd caution for it tbh, but I was wrong up-thread so... y'know.

 

[bester]

He said he wasn't using his hands so he can he be using a held object?

 

[JamesL]

He said he wasn't using his hands so he can he be using a held object?

If you can demonstrate how someone could catch a ball between their body and shirt without using their hands I'll take you on ....

 

[Max2]

Some of the games I have on a Sunday, looks like half the players are concealing a ball up their shirt tbh.

 

[bester]

The question set the parameters.

Very unlikely but ball could get caught between shirt and body if someone was wearing an oversized shirt.

 

[one]

Direct free kick:

• throws an object at the ball, an opponent or a match official, or makes
contact with the ball with a held object

Held implies using hand. Can't use this law

In my game today, had a player ask me, as a joke, if he managed to catch the ball in-between his shirt and body without using his hands, would it be a foul.
I just laughed with him and walked away, and luckily he didn't try it in the game!, but what law would it actually be breaking?

If it happens accidentally, stop game and go drop ball. If he does it deliberately (I don't see how) first time stop game, drop ball only and warm him. Second time, caution for USB and IDFK. The laws can't cover everything and that's why USB is open ended.

 

[socal lurker]

Held implies using hand. Can't use this law


If it happens accidentally, stop game and go drop ball. If he does it deliberately (I don't see how) first time stop game, drop ball only and warm him. Second time, caution for USB and IDFK. The laws can't cover everything and that's why USB is open ended.

How in the world is a player going to do this deliberately without his hand on his shirt? Hand on his shirt means it‘s handling. (I’m not a 100% sure, but I think the old IFAB Q&A had this as a Q with the answer being handling.)

 

[JamesL]

How in the world is a player going to do this deliberately without his hand on his shirt? Hand on his shirt means it‘s handling. (I’m not a 100% sure, but I think the old IFAB Q&A had this as a Q with the answer being handling.)

Removed as handling offence in 18/19 and listed in the part of law I quoted.