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How to get the referees attention as an assistant?

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  1. joe cunningham

    joe cunningham Active Member Level 7 Referee

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    Just a quick question, I got my cup final fixture through today and it will be my first match with NARs. What should I tell the senior AR to do get my attention when a team wants to make a sub baring in mind I don't have buzzer flags?
     
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  4. Padfoot

    Padfoot The Enlightened One

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    Surely the LOTG covers the approved signal for substitutions?
     
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    joe cunningham Active Member Level 7 Referee

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    It does, but if I'm not looking at the dugouts when the AR has his flag up what do we do?
     
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    CO. DOWN REF Well-Known Member Level 7 Referee

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    Wait until you're looking that way?

    Get other AR to mirror the signal?
     
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    joe cunningham Active Member Level 7 Referee

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    Good solution, thanks
     
  8. Padfoot

    Padfoot The Enlightened One

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    In reality what will happen is that the dugouts will be shouting "Ref..." probably before your AR can get up to the dugouts and perform the approved signal!

    Bearing in mind substitutions can only happen during a break in play, a quick glance towards the dugouts when the ball goes out of play will help you maintain awareness......
     
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    joe cunningham Active Member Level 7 Referee

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    That's a good shout Actualy. Cheers @Padfoot
     
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    Charlie Jones Work Until You Don't Have To Introduce Yourself Level 7 Referee

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    when assisting, what do you do? I see in your DP that you've ran the line before?

    to be fair 90% of the time @Padfoot is right, the benches will holla ... but for those 10% just tell them to give a shout ... 'JOE!!' turn, glance, there he/she is with flag in 'sub' position ... boom ...

    good luck btw
     
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    joe cunningham Active Member Level 7 Referee

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    When on the line I'm Usually on spectator side so don't have to do subs. Thanks for the advice :)
     
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    SM The avuncular one Staff Member

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    100% what @CO. DOWN REF said. Ensure to include the need for mirroring in your pre match speech.
     
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    DanCohen17 Simply The Best Staff Member

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    Definitely a mirror signal. As someone said, a little "yes please ref" or "sub please Joe" from your senior AR will work in addition!
     
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    Will Triffitt Active Member Level 7 Referee

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    Make sure you know the voice of the senior AR. It is easy to ignore it when trying to keep the coaches voices outside of your head! When I've been senior AR, I make eye contact with the ref and say 'Ref, sub' then they normally say ok, at ......... point! Good luck with the game
     
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    RustyRef Moderator Staff Member

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    It comes natural after a while, and you'll be looking over at the bench at almost every stoppage. Very difficult when not used to neutrals though, so you need a way of preventing issues. Use the pre-match instructions to cover it - as has been said get the junior assistant to mirror signal if necessary. But also tell the senior assistant (or 4th official) what to shout if he needs to get your attention - everyone in the ground will be calling you ref and if you turned round every time you heard that shouted you would have a very sore neck by the end of the game. So give him something else to shout - be that your name, nick name, dog's name - it really doesn't matter but it needs to be something that makes you turn around.
     
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    I sometimes take the Mrs, stand her besides me and simply ask her to lift up her top when called upon :) works like a treat

    I'd recommend you not to do this at youth games
     
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    Every single time the ball goes out of play, entire ground, players, well everyone turns expectantly to sideline where @DB is standing....
     
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    ... and she's wearing an undershirt that reads "Hey Ref!" when she lifts up her top...
     
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