is the right answerCan a law ever be applied consistently if it involves a subjective element in interpreting what is and what isn’t “deliberate”?
But this applies to every Law or Rule in every sport that ever existed. We always have to make subjective calls or interpret exactly what is meant by particular words (not just "deliberate"). Personally I think the IFAB have gone long way to smoothing out inconsistencies. I remember the days when a player in an offside position was only not called for an offence if he was "not interfering with play" . No guidance was given as to what exactly this might mean. Every sport has to deal with this kind of problem. More than that, it also applies to just about every law that any society has ever introduced: Just how "grievous" is GBH? It's all subjective.Can a law ever be applied consistently if it involves a subjective element in interpreting what is and what isn’t “deliberate”?
Eh?Also, at the risk of being pedantic ‘deliberately’ touching the ball is only one of the considerations for hb.
Any decision that relies on judging intent is always going to be contentious, and the only way to fix that is to say if it hits your hand or arm in any position it is an offence. Then it becomes black and white, but all that would happen there is attackers would try and kick the ball at defender's hands to try and get a penalty.
I've said this many times before, but this was always going to be the problem with VAR in football. It just isn't like most other sports where the decisions are usually black and white, aside from offside the decisions are mostly subjective. In cricket they have technology to tell the umpire if the ball was hitting the stumps, but no technology is ever going to tell football referees whether handling was intentional or contact from an opponent was enough to cause an attacker to fall over. Peter Walton says Maguire's arm was in a natural position for someone jumping, I don't agree, although I think it was potentially in the expected position for someone in a scrum of others players jostling for position. Several of us on here don't think TAA's was handball, but he does as do other members here. This is never going to get fixed in my opinion.
I can't profess to know anything about hockey, it was banned at my school as the sticks were classed as lethal weaponsThey do this is Hockey… hits your foot .. short corner / penalty corner .. hits your foot and stops a goal .. penalty flick card .. works quite well in my opinion
I can't profess to know anything about hockey, it was banned at my school as the sticks were classed as lethal weapons
But I would hazard a guess that a short corner / penalty corner leads to a goal a lot less than a penalty kick does in football?
I disagree that it works well in hockey. Attackers smashing the ball at the feet of defenders is not very entertaining imo. I wouldn't want to see similar in football.They do this is Hockey… hits your foot .. short corner / penalty corner .. hits your foot and stops a goal .. penalty flick card .. works quite well in my opinion
I disagree that it works well in hockey. Attackers smashing the ball at the feet of defenders is not very entertaining imo. I wouldn't want to see similar in football.