Opened a can of worms here, any observers like to chip in with what they would expect of a referee in this situation?
Difference here is that in your pre match briefing to your CARs you will have (hopefully!) made clear where the limits of their interventions lie. In and out of play and flag when an offside player touches the ball or interferes with an opponent but leave the fouls to me, tends to do the trickWhat if your beloved CAR accuratley and honestly saw what happened, can advise you that Blue captain started it with a headbutt and should be sent off, a huge key match decision.
However, you take his word on offsides, potentially disallowing the winning goal, but not to dismiss correctly the blue team captain?!
Bear in mind at an offside, although you might not be in line, there is a 99% chance you at least be looking in the right direction!
Off the ball behind your back, you wont have seen it at all
Logic?
Missing mine. Yes., because that's not the role you've given himMissing my point. Happy to take advice from a CAR over something you are already looking at, albeit not from a perfect position, but, not prepared to take advice from a CAR over something that you have not seen at all
I say again, someone is happy to receive assistance on something that they are able to see for themselves, but, will not accept assistance on something that they cant possibly of seen
am sure that makes sense somewhere in the world...
You're the ref. That's exactly what you can do.And you are going to act on the CAR advise when he advises "send off blue 6 headbutt" when you have 100% not seen it, or not been able to see if for yourself !!
You cant pick and choose what advice to act upon if you have 100% not seen the headbutt !!
Surely you need help on the things you cant see,not the things you can!
as ever, each to own, if you need a CAR to tell you ball is out of play then maybe you fitness level is not to the required standard in the first place
You rely on potentially non-impartial help for a trivial decision, but stick to your own impartial view for a KIM? Why's that difficult to understand?You rely on help for a ball out of play at half way line, but wont accept help for an act of violent conduct?
Surely nobody has ever reported "in the 77th min on advice from my CAR I dismissed blue 6 for an act of violence which I did not see because it was behind my back?" !!!!
Your impartial viewpoint is whatever you see through your eyes. If you don't see it, you can't give it - and while you might be able to hedge your bets with non-impartial help for a minor decision like a throw, you can't with a KMI.But you have not seen it !! so its impossible to have any opinion or take or view on what happened !!!
whats more important in the game? A throw in at half way line? or, dismissing the blue captain at 0-0 for a headbutt !!
you cant have an impartial view in my senario, because, its behind your back, you have not seen it !!
I meant if you just see the end of a fight, for example.
That's what I meant yes, makes sense but I don't think it would go down well if I gave a penalty for a fight that may have been instigated by the attacker! Never had it happen and hopefully the trailing eye would prevent such a situation.
Why would I let a CAR give a throw I've seen clearly? You seem to have a very strange idea of what people use CAR's for.So whats the merits of a CAR giving you a throw that you are looking at anyway, but not a KMI that you have not seen?
Surely if you are going to enlist help, you want help with the things you yourself cant call!