But as AR it's not our job to play advantage. If we see an offence and flag for it the referee then has the option.Have had level 4/5s tell me in pre match that as an AR I shouldn't expect and/or play advantage for fouls in own half.
And someone had taken a photo?The away team in my match on Saturday scored a goal immediately following my playing advantage in their favour. I kept my arms outstretched and maintained the signal until Sunday lunchtime just to make sure everyone noticed.
The away team in my match on Saturday scored a goal immediately following my playing advantage in their favour. I kept my arms outstretched and maintained the signal until Sunday lunchtime just to make sure everyone noticed.
I disagree. As an AR you have every right (and the responsibility) to not flag the foul if you see an obvious advantage. If you flag it and the referee plays advantage you will be quite a ways behind your prescribed location!But as AR it's not our job to play advantage. If we see an offence and flag for it the referee then has the option.
This is where flagging on the move comes into play. If you flag for a foul whilst still crabbing along the line, you give the referee the option to play an advantage. If he chooses to go for the foul, you can simply stop and indicate the direction.I disagree. As an AR you have every right (and the responsibility) to not flag the foul if you see an obvious advantage. If you flag it and the referee plays advantage you will be quite a ways behind your prescribed location!
This is where flagging on the move comes into play. If you flag for a foul whilst still crabbing along the line, you give the referee the option to play an advantage. If he chooses to go for the foul, you can simply stop and indicate the direction.
So the only quantifiable profit to playing advantage is a goal or a free-kick closer to goal, not the advantage is having an advantage. I really don't see the issue!!
I am one of those "feckless and witless" as you put it, who takes pride in allowing more advantages rather than less. It's even one of the (two) things I mention to the captains at the coin toss. My desire to do so comes from a strongly held belief that, where it is possible, legitimately within the LOTG, for us to increase the enjoyment of players and spectators, then we should take that opportunity. As I've progressed from 7 to 5 over the last two years it's consistently been called out by assessors as a strength and I'm sure it's also helped me get more prestigious appointments. I'd see that as a Win / Win situation .. I'm happy, players and clubs are happy.The "i want to play lots of advantage and no one can tell me any better" idiots are those who are simply out there for self aggrandizement and club marks......
The "i want to play lots of advantage and no one can tell me any better" idiots are those who are simply out there for self aggrandizement and club marks......
Of course players will appear to appreciate lots of advantage.....that's because they are largely clueless about their own ability and exceptionally clueless about the LOTG.......and apparently so are a great many referees......
Just another reason why the proposed changes to referee structure will simply result in a lowering of standards yet further, allow for the continued over promotion of the feckless and the witless, and is in reality just another mechanism for the FA to prioritise youth over experience and knowledge.
So call call me and others idiots, I'll respond by saying you are a clown. If you really are an assessor then I would be very, very sorry for the poor candidates that fall into your path ....
Here in Canada, we got a directive just before Christmas that says (essentially) the following:
Having said that, half the refs immediately signal advantage, and half the refs (overlap unknown) still say "play on". Heck, I did the latter yesterday afternoon by accident, and I should know better!
- Don't call for the advantage until an advantage has actually accrued. That avoids calling advantage and having to pull it back like was done here. It also has the added "benefit" of having everyone blow up at you because you were slow on the whistle on a foul.
- Don't use "play on, advantage" or "advantage, play on". Just use "advantage".
As others have stated, guidelines clearly state here in UK to immediately signal & call for the advantage. It's an enormous bugbear of mine and, certainly at L4, something I really had to concentrate on, especially under assessment.Ive never been taught to signal advantage straight away.
Again, that's an FA guideline thing. "Red, Amber & Green" advantage zones, using defensive third, middle third & attacking third. Never in defensive, rarely in middle, more in attacking.Think its more than that Kes to be fair.
Have had level 4/5s tell me in pre match that as an AR I shouldn't expect and/or play advantage for fouls in own half.
But as AR it's not our job to play advantage. If we see an offence and flag for it the referee then has the option.
Massively agree with this. For a start, it looks sensational! As a referee, seeing your AR do this is brilliant and allows that opportunity of advantage. Plus, assessors love it too!!This is where flagging on the move comes into play. If you flag for a foul whilst still crabbing along the line, you give the referee the option to play an advantage. If he chooses to go for the foul, you can simply stop and indicate the direction.
But as AR it's not our job to play advantage. If we see an offence and flag for it the referee then has the option.
Don't stop & flag, you flag whilst on the move. Not only does it not look messy, it looks brilliant!Are you sure, aren't we best to wait to see if advantage can be played, in accordance with referee's approach so far in the game.
You stop, flag, as per procedure and referee shouts advantage play on
a) It looks messy
b) AR is out of position as players are now ahead of him/her
The "i want to play lots of advantage and no one can tell me any better" idiots are those who are simply out there for self aggrandizement and club marks......
Of course players will appear to appreciate lots of advantage.....that's because they are largely clueless about their own ability and exceptionally clueless about the LOTG.......and apparently so are a great many referees......
Just another reason why the proposed changes to referee structure will simply result in a lowering of standards yet further, allow for the continued over promotion of the feckless and the witless, and is in reality just another mechanism for the FA to prioritise youth over experience and knowledge.