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Southampton Vs Chelsea hair pull

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I just can't fathom what goes through a footballers mind here. They know they are being filmed and that everything is being checked yet they still do silly stuff like this.
As I always say, play silly games win silly prizes. It's a red card. Can't be anything else.
 
I think it was a Chelsea game more than a few seasons ago when Mike Dean only cautioned or nothing when a player clearly had his hair pulled & it was discussed/determined then that it’s a red card offence.
 
DavidObs said:
I think it was a Chelsea game more than a few seasons ago when Mike Dean only cautioned or nothing when a player clearly had his hair pulled & it was discussed/determined then that it’s a red card offence.
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It was the same player on the receiving end (Cucurella).
Dean wasn't the on field referee, he was on VAR and didn't recommend a review.
 
Runner Ref said:
This was the one he later came out and said he didn’t want to recommend a review as AT was his mate…… or something along those lines
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All coming back to me now - what a strange reason to say, though I do remember him saying that. What friendship has to do with it is beyond me - the Law is the law and it would have done AT a favour not a disfavour.
 
bloovee said:
He was probably just trying to pull his shoulder but couldn't find it though the hair.
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if you’re pulling a shoulder you do so with a flat hand that then clenches on top of the shoulder, at no point would you make a clenched fist to do so, like you would need to to pull someone’s hair
 
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Question... would it even have been looked at if he hadn't went down? and would the hair pull be enough to bring him down? I am not saying that the decision is wrong, but it is the reaction, not the action that has brought it to the attention of the officials.
 
RonnieM said:
Question... would it even have been looked at if he hadn't went down? and would the hair pull be enough to bring him down? I am not saying that the decision is wrong, but it is the reaction, not the action that has brought it to the attention of the officials.
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Although the reaction may have only brought it to the attention of the on field officials, hopefully the action would have been identified by VAR ( unlike Mike Dean who didn’t a few seasons ago when he was VAR at a similar incident involving the same Chelsea player).
 
DavidObs said:
Although the reaction may have only brought it to the attention of the on field officials, hopefully the action would have been identified by VAR ( unlike Mike Dean who didn’t a few seasons ago when he was VAR at a similar incident involving the same Chelsea player).
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So basically, the purpose of the reaction was to make sure it was checked on VAR. I certainly don't think it is enough for him to go down, but he knows they will look at why he did and he knows the outcome. It is a stupid thing to do by the opposition player, but is it really a serious attempt at injuring someone?
 
RonnieM said:
So basically, the purpose of the reaction was to make sure it was checked on VAR. I certainly don't think it is enough for him to go down, but he knows they will look at why he did and he knows the outcome. It is a stupid thing to do by the opposition player, but is it really a serious attempt at injuring someone?
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Probably not with your final sentence & we will never know for your opening sentence, but it has been defined as a sending off incident for anyone & ignorance of this fact by the offender is no excuse and he should not have done it anyway.
 
one said:
This is not the definition of violent conduct though. I suggest you read the definition of violent conduct and this action fits it.
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I suspect he is aware of that, but I can see where he is coming from - comparing the pulling of someone’s hair as opposed to striking someone in the face or a head butt, or an elbow etc, though I also think the Law is correct to treat all the same.
 
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