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Thought some folks might be interested in USSF’s anti-ref abuse program that is coming out in March. Very aggressive indications of what they expect people to be tossed for and what the suspensions are expected to be. We’ll see how much sticks here in the real world. But it is certainly a step above a mere publicity campaign.

 
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socal lurker said:
Thought some folks might be interested in USSF’s anti-ref abuse program that is coming out in March. Very aggressive indications of what they expect people to be tossed for and what the suspensions are expected to be. We’ll see how much sticks here in the real world. But it is certainly a step above a mere publicity campaign.

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Let's hope it works, and that young match officials have the confidence to act and then report when appropriate.
Good luck to all!
 
Another regional campaign aimed at youth and amateur football. Nothing new
It will run it's course whilst the Professional Game sets the true expectation
 
Couple of things:
- I'm not quite sure how a suspension that's both match-based AND term-based works...
- Three matches or one month for tapping a ref on the shoulder to get their attention seems very excessive, especially as they're equating it to prodding the ref in the chest
- The second table on p.3 states the minimum suspension for the 'red zone' offences is 12 months (which I think is a little lenient anyway) - more worryingly, the picture on p.13 states the minimum is 12 games, not 12 months!
 
Big Cat said:
Another regional campaign aimed at youth and amateur football. Nothing new
It will run it's course whilst the Professional Game sets the true expectation
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I think it is a bit different than most. It doesn’t just tell people to be nicer to refs. It sets clear suspensions for behavior—and it gives clear examples of what is not acceptable. Some of which seems overly harsh to me, and I thought I had a harsh attitude to misbehavior. If there is carry through, it will change expected behavior. But it’s a big “if” as to whether refs will toss those who deserve it and whether local authorities will support them.USSF only has so much actual sway as to what happens on the ground.
 
socal lurker said:
I think it is a bit different than most. It doesn’t just tell people to be nicer to refs. It sets clear suspensions for behavior—and it gives clear examples of what is not acceptable. Some of which seems overly harsh to me, and I thought I had a harsh attitude to misbehavior. If there is carry through, it will change expected behavior. But it’s a big “if” as to whether refs will toss those who deserve it and whether local authorities will support them.USSF only has so much actual sway as to what happens on the ground.
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Herein potentially lies the problem. If it seems overly harsh, there will be people who don't follow through with it. Then when some are and some aren't, it won't last (LWR and all that...)
 
socal lurker said:
I think it is a bit different than most. It doesn’t just tell people to be nicer to refs. It sets clear suspensions for behavior—and it gives clear examples of what is not acceptable. Some of which seems overly harsh to me, and I thought I had a harsh attitude to misbehavior. If there is carry through, it will change expected behavior. But it’s a big “if” as to whether refs will toss those who deserve it and whether local authorities will support them.USSF only has so much actual sway as to what happens on the ground.
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I understand. I just think that the same rules and expectations need to be Universal and they need to come from the very highest level of Governance
 
Big Cat said:
I understand. I just think that the same rules and expectations need to be Universal and they need to come from the very highest level of Governance
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That would be a nice world to live in, but there is never going to be a universal standard on this that applies to the top pro leagues and the amateur game. I’d like to see the pros behave, but the money in those leagues is never going to support the sanctions for the same standards as make sense at lower levels.

Setting standards can work. I’ve seen it radically shift behavior. But the key element is follow through.
 
Big Cat said:
I understand. I just think that the same rules and expectations need to be Universal and they need to come from the very highest level of Governance
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Completely agree but it will never happen. Sponsors and broadcasters love it too much. If referees started actual dealing with Offinabus and dissent, it would upset clubs/sponsors/broadcatsers. And thems the people who have all the power.
 
I have seen too many public campaigns, zoro tolerance, respect etc etc that come in. But as soon as their short term impact* is apparent football bodies quietly back down and give it little support or follow through. They seem to be satisfied with the small imporvenets the short term impact has made until it starts getting really bad again.

The short term impact is yellow and red card numbers spike really fast (double, triple or higher) Football bodies dont have the resources to deal with it, start loosing players and teams which they need to survive.

So it's natural for most to be sceptical when there is yet another campaign.
 
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