Not Enough Games

JH

Active Member
#1
I hesitated about going for promotion (7-6) and so missed the chance to submit all my games from March and April.

Granted, I started the season only on one league and I am now on a second, but even doubling the open age games I had in the last promotion period doesn't get me the 20 required.

As long as you get the assessments in and you get the requirement marks, would you be denied for not getting the full 20?
 

lincs22

Supply League Observer
Staff member
Observer/Tutor
#2
Hi @JH - Yes they would. The 20 games is a mandatory requirement. i was refused promotion once, in the very old days, for being 2 matches short. I found out that my average mark, for the games I did was high enough to promote me even if I had received zero marks for the two games. But since I was short, i was denied.

However, it is 20 games refereed in the marking season. So if you did matches in March & April, they should qualify as matches towards your 20. Check with your RDO.
 

JH

Active Member
#3
Hi @JH - Yes they would. The 20 games is a mandatory requirement. i was refused promotion once, in the very old days, for being 2 matches short. I found out that my average mark, for the games I did was high enough to promote me even if I had received zero marks for the two games. But since I was short, i was denied.

However, it is 20 games refereed in the marking season. So if you did matches in March & April, they should qualify as matches towards your 20. Check with your RDO.
Will do, thank you.
 

GraemeS

RefChat Addict
#5
I would also discuss the matches missed with your RDO, as there's a possibility they would still count towards the 20?
 

Chrisp72

Always smiling
#6
I did receive an email from my county to say if promotion wasn’t applied for and fee payed by March 1st then the promotion application would not be considered .
 

Sheffields Finest

Maybe I'm foolish, Maybe I'm blind!
#7
20 games is not enough for anybody to be considered for promotion IMO (in most cases). What’s up with people, learn your craft, plenty of time for promotions, #takescover :smoke:
 

Chrisp72

Always smiling
#8
You may have well been refereeing a few seasons so could have lots of games under your belt , the 20 games they talk about has to be in the period you are applying for promotion
 

Big Cat

1st Year Law Student
#9
20 games is not enough for anybody to be considered for promotion IMO (in most cases). What’s up with people, learn your craft, plenty of time for promotions, #takescover :smoke:
Agreed. I didn't apply for promo this year (my first opportunity to do so) because i'm not passing my own assessments yet, let alone anyone else's ;)
 

RobOda

Well-Known Member
#10
Agreed. I didn't apply for promo this year (my first opportunity to do so) because i'm not passing my own assessments yet, let alone anyone else's ;)
Ah, but the assessment feedback is valuable even if you fail completely. So I think it is worth applying for, even if you don't feel you will promote.
 

Big Cat

1st Year Law Student
#11
Ah, but the assessment feedback is valuable even if you fail completely. So I think it is worth applying for, even if you don't feel you will promote.
Ah, but using the analogy of a driving test, one wouldn't want to crash in the Test Centre car park! Not wishing to be overly self deprecating, but i'll be better placed come February
 

JH

Active Member
#12
I would also discuss the matches missed with your RDO, as there's a possibility they would still count towards the 20?
I have, and they do. I overestimated how many OA games I did in March and April, but it's an extra 3 towards the total so it was worth checking.
 

RobOda

Well-Known Member
#13
Ah, but using the analogy of a driving test, one wouldn't want to crash in the Test Centre car park! Not wishing to be overly self deprecating, but i'll be better placed come February
You've already passed, and you're driving with L plates. The assessors are just teaching you the pass-plus to bring your insurance down...

... Okay, that didn't work.
 

zarathustra

RefChat Addict
#14
20 games is not enough for anybody to be considered for promotion IMO (in most cases). What’s up with people, learn your craft, plenty of time for promotions, #takescover :smoke:
True, but that is only the minimum number of games required in that promotion period which they use to work out average club marks etc.
 
#15
Hi @JH - Yes they would. The 20 games is a mandatory requirement. i was refused promotion once, in the very old days, for being 2 matches short. I found out that my average mark, for the games I did was high enough to promote me even if I had received zero marks for the two games. But since I was short, i was denied.

However, it is 20 games refereed in the marking season. So if you did matches in March & April, they should qualify as matches towards your 20. Check with your RDO.
I started my promotion last September:

22 middies
18 lines
5 assessments

It was a right squeeze but I managed it. Had to go hunting for games, taking many on the day appointments