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JamesL

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You still have to pass the FA test. The one County do is to verify you can do it to stop people getting all the way to promotion and then failing the test. My old County wouldn't even observe you if you hadnt passed the test.

Last year Luke did a practise test at Carn Brea. If be surprised if that didn't happen again and if it wasn't done at Par too for the more eastern County refs.
I have asked. 👍
 
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Anubis

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You need a strong neutral observer at each end run line
With this, only those getting to the line in the required time pass
Without this, allowances and stretching ensues, rendering the test unfair for those who do make the line in time
 

JamesL

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You need a strong neutral observer at each end run line
With this, only those getting to the line in the required time pass
Without this, allowances and stretching ensues, rendering the test unfair for those who do make the line in time
You also need to observe the start gate too so that people aren't taking a head start, of longer recovery walk.
 

Anubis

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You also need to observe the start gate too so that people aren't taking a head start, of longer recovery walk.

Thats what I mean, yes. The observors need be impartial and strong. Nobody asking for anyone to be kicked off the test unfairly, however, if you dont get to end line and-or get away too quick, thats unfair on those doing the test correctly


I was pulled up more than once, told my sprints were too close to time for comfort, which, indeed they were. However, never ever did I fail a single sprint, and thats the be all and end all, enough said for me that even with timing gates someone will try manipulate the results to suit.
 

bester

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Far easier and fairer to administer this on a straight? Run 75m, Walk 12.5 m turn round, Run 75m...
 
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Big Cat

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Far easier and fairer to administer this on a straight? Run 75m, Walk 12.5 m turn round, Run 75m...
On a 100m track... all you need is a cone 12.5m from start AND finish lines
Like I mentioned, an easy way to see how close you are to passing, take any County Pitch... 100 yards in length invariably. Easy enough to guestimate 80 yards(ish) and use your watch to measure 40s sections (15s runs with 25s recovery rather than 22s or whatever)
Test takes 26 minutes 15s to complete using this formula (not including the final 25s recovery cos that bit takes all day 😴)
 

JamesL

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On a 100m track... all you need is a cone 12.5m from start AND finish lines
Like I mentioned, an easy way to see how close you are to passing, take any County Pitch... 100 yards in length invariably. Easy enough to guestimate 80 yards(ish) and use your watch to measure 40s sections (15s runs with 25s recovery rather than 22s or whatever)
Test takes 26 minutes 15s to complete using this formula (not including the final 25s recovery cos that bit takes all day 😴)
I think bester was referring to actual test day as it requires more people to monitor around the track than it would just up and down.
Can be done anywhere where there is 100m in reality it's getting then measurements right.
I'd advocate either running to the test times or quicker or adding an extra 10 intervals in training to ensure that gets day is a breeze.
 

Big Cat

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I think bester was referring to actual test day as it requires more people to monitor around the track than it would just up and down.
Can be done anywhere where there is 100m in reality it's getting then measurements right.
I'd advocate either running to the test times or quicker or adding an extra 10 intervals in training to ensure that gets day is a breeze.
Oh I see... Soz @bester ... Let's hope I'm on the ball by 3pm today
 

bester

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Unless you're in lane 1 you're going to be at significant disadvantage. Stagger distances in metres.


DistanceBendLane 2Lane 3Lane 4Lane 5Lane 6Lane 7Lane 8
200m13.5197.35211.18515.01718.85022.68326.516
400m27.03814.70422.37030.03437.70045.36653.032
 

santa sangria

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When we did we went in pairs in 4 groups staggered around the track so no one was disadvantaged.

40m times anyone?

Last time, two years ago, at 47, I got 5,02 fastest on the day and gutted not to go under 5 as had done in practice - toot!

The young lads slaughter me in the cooper and beep tho!
 

JamesL

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Level 3 Referee
When we did we went in pairs in 4 groups staggered around the track so no one was disadvantaged.

40m times anyone?

Last time, two years ago, at 47, I got 5,02 fastest on the day and gutted not to go under 5 as had done in practice - toot!

The young lads slaughter me in the cooper and beep tho!
2 x 50m in 7.5s.
Level 3s are 40m in 6.2s
 

MattTheRef

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Level 4 Referee
So I ran this as a test yesterday evening.

I used the dutch FA Woman's fifa test audio and basically just ran hard then walked. I ended up ahead of what I needed to do. I've looked into the timings and you effectively need to run at a 6.04 minute per mile pace during the 17s "sprint".
 

ASM

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Level 3 Referee
Do any of you folks need the audio files for the L3 & L4 tests?

I can get them from the PGMOL sport science guys if you want them to help your test prep.
 

JamesL

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Do any of you folks need the audio files for the L3 & L4 tests?

I can get them from the PGMOL sport science guys if you want them to help your test prep.
Think there were links sent with the fitness tests emails. 👍
 
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