Kane Headbutt?
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Be careful what you wish for. In the US, the professional league has two different committees--one that looks at possible sanctions for certain misconduct missed by the officials and one that can reverse certain misconduct issued by the officials. (I believe that both are limited to send off offenses and possibly mistaken ID.) I'm not convinced that it has led to any greater consistency.
Indeed, on some types of plays, I think a player would be better of having been sanctioned as that committee would reverse, but the other committee would have sanctioned if it had not been sanctioned.
Indeed, on some types of plays, I think a player would be better of having been sanctioned as that committee would reverse, but the other committee would have sanctioned if it had not been sanctioned.
It’s been reviewed and rejected.... move on!
spuddy1878
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Football could take a bit from Rugby and have the "its on report" law.
Russell Jones
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A nudge at worst.
Yellow on my FOP then. You're not a low profile Spurs fan by any chance? Just qualifying this intel!
Maybe I'll stop being lazy and stick MOTD on catch-up...
Kes
I'll Decide ...
Richard smith
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The FA Rules are quite Categoric.
If the referee see's the incident and deals with it on the FoP, then NO retrospective action can be taken
Andre Mariner seen the incident and dealt with It. No Retrospective action
If the referee see's the incident and deals with it on the FoP, then NO retrospective action can be taken
Andre Mariner seen the incident and dealt with It. No Retrospective action
Emmhmmm maybe Alf Inga Harland or the Wigan player beg to differ!!
Iirc Halsey said he didnt see it. He later came out and said he was told to say that but none the less, he did not deal with it at the time. Assuming Marriner has done something which shows that he did see and deal with it.Emmhmmm maybe Alf Inga Harland or the Wigan player beg to differ!!
So why didn't he send him off?
Players have been sent off for less than that. Inconsistencies in refereeing in the Prem is crazy.
Peter Grove
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There may have been another angle that I didn't see but based on the replays I saw at the time, it wasn't clear to me whether there was any actual contact. Now I suppose you could call it 'an attempted head butt' but from the footage I saw it might equally have only been a threatening movement of the head, a little similar to the Edin Dzeko incident the other week when although it appeared he had spat at the referee, he actually hadn't.
So in case I missed it, can anyone say (based on definitive video evidence they have seen) that a head butt actually occurred?
So in case I missed it, can anyone say (based on definitive video evidence they have seen) that a head butt actually occurred?
one
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For me act of brutality does not require contact (eg swing of a fist). If the intent was to make contact then he should be off. There has been three similar 'headnudge' incidents this year all seeing red. Now I admit first two were slightly more serious but last one very very similar.
EDIT: Added the image form Kane incident. Looks like contact anyway.
EDIT: Added the image form Kane incident. Looks like contact anyway.
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Ciley Myrus
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The motioning of head is no longer enough to be classed as vc, its needs to be accompanied by the act of brutality.
No hurty, no problem 
one
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I don't know. The three I saw were pointed out by a journo.
Although there are some exceptions to the rule, I'd say that the expected outcome for these incidents (in the EPL and EFL) has now changed to yellow..
I've had one similar occurrence recently. 2xYC and some very stern words along the lines of... I won't hesitate to issue a second YC if the two protagonists persist in any way whatsoever
one
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When you say now, do you mean half way through the season or from the start of the season? Surly they don't change the rule half way through the season.
If from the start of the season and the three Red's are 'exceptions' to the rule then is it fair to assume we have had say 100 or so these sort of headbutts so far this season to make yellow the norm rule. Surly 3 Red's and say 5 yellows doesn't make the Red's 'exception' to the rule.
Hope you can see the logic I am trying to apply
Edit: the cynical part of me says the reason this was not charged retro was the FA bottom line, sponsors etc.