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Referees not having the best of games.
How she gave that foul against Mead early second half is beyond me considering the one she allowed against Russo leading to the 2nd goal.

And this offside?

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A potential red card check for challenge on Williamson.
Easy foul, very easy yellow. Could argue a red.

Not even a free kick.. dropped ball restart.
 
ladbroke8745 said:
Referees not having the best of games.
How she gave that foul against Mead early second half is beyond me considering the one she allowed against Russo leading to the 2nd goal.

And this offside?

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I suspect the actual determination of offside is auto automated and with only millimetres in it, the eye can pick it up in the picture.

It does raise an interesting question though. Isn't hair part of the human body? Why is not used for automated offside? (Or is it?)

I am sure it is used for "last touch" when the ball goes out hence it should be used for offside also.
 
And we pretend to have precision—we are very precise about comparing the points, but do we really think it is that precise when we are talking about the points on the arm that would be the bottom of the arm pit if the player’s arm was down?!? It’s like people comparing times in hundredths of sentence on hand help stop watches. . .
 
ladbroke8745 said:
A potential red card check for challenge on Williamson.
Easy foul, very easy yellow. Could argue a red.

Not even a free kick.. dropped ball restart.
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I was genuinely amazed by this. TBF, the ref had positioned herself perfectly to see this challenge very clearly.

But to not give a FK and (minimum) yellow was bizarre. I don’t even think red was out of the question, given the lunging nature of the French player’s challenge, with studs up and made contact.
 
The England player went down immediately holding her head. On first look, I thought that was why it had been stopped, a thought solidified when the referee immediately waved on medics.

Only on replays that it looked like a foul. And as had been said before, once the check for a red card is cleared, that’s that. A caution can’t be recommended under the current system.
 
Tealeaf said:
The England player went down immediately holding her head. On first look, I thought that was why it had been stopped, a thought solidified when the referee immediately waved on medics.

Only on replays that it looked like a foul. And as had been said before, once the check for a red card is cleared, that’s that. A caution can’t be recommended under the current system.
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Yes agreed on the protocols and of course we all make mistakes.

I suppose I’m just surprised that an international class ref, with a clear unobstructed view of this incident, has failed to see what is actually a pretty bad challenge by the French player.
 
socal lurker said:
And we pretend to have precision—we are very precise about comparing the points, but do we really think it is that precise when we are talking about the points on the arm that would be the bottom of the arm pit if the player’s arm was down?!? It’s like people comparing times in hundredths of sentence on hand help stop watches. . .
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And the precise moment it was taken is anothe point. With so little margin of offside, a hundredth of a second can make a difference.

Having said that, if there is no human involvement until that image is spat out I don't have an issue with it. It may be imprecise, but it is consistent in its impreciseness, if that makes sense.
 
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And the precise moment it was taken is anothe point. With so little margin of offside, a hundredth of a second can make a difference.

Having said that, if there is no human involvement until that image is spat out I don't have an issue with it. It may be imprecise, but it is consistent in its impreciseness, if that makes sense.
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That’s pretty much where I’m at. People wanted incorrect offside decisions corrected and VAR has certainly increased the percentage of correct offside decisions. Then they wanted it to be faster so they get semi-automated offsides. If we’ve got the tech determining the position of the players at the moment the ball is played we have to trust that.

I notice there has been a furore about the automated line calls at Wimbledon. But much like many of the issues to do with VAR, it had nothing to do with the technology, rather someone accidentally deactivated the sensor on the base line. Technology is only as good as the people operating it.
 
It got infuriating listening to talksh*te yesterday when they kept referring to it as a poor decision. It wasn't a poor decision, it was factually correct.

One of them said 'the sooner we get Arsene Wengers new rules in the better to stop this absolute nonsense' and my brain nearly melted.
 
Tealeaf said:
The England player went down immediately holding her head. On first look, I thought that was why it had been stopped, a thought solidified when the referee immediately waved on medics.

Only on replays that it looked like a foul. And as had been said before, once the check for a red card is cleared, that’s that. A caution can’t be recommended under the current system.
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Wasn't she holding her head, even though the contact wasn't even on that part of her body ? 🤦‍♂️
 
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