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Ending a half

QuaverRef

I used to be indecisive but now i'm not so sure
Level 6 Referee
Not specific to any game but a question I’ve always been meaning to ask, when there’s a goal kick to be taken at the end of the half, why is this always carried out before the ref blows the whistle rather than just ending the half once the ball has gone out from the attacker?
 

deusex

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Level 5 Referee
At amateur level, because the refs want to look like the big boys on TV.
It really grinds my gears when Sunday League refs do this!
Just blow the whistle man.
 

Big Cat

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Level 6 Referee
Not specific to any game but a question I’ve always been meaning to ask, when there’s a goal kick to be taken at the end of the half, why is this always carried out before the ref blows the whistle rather than just ending the half once the ball has gone out from the attacker?
I don't bother with this particular Ceremony, unless there's some reason to do so. Most often... giving the players 20 seconds to forget their gripes
 

socal lurker

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I don't necessarily have the restart, but certainly let the ball come back to the field!

The one I think is trickier is CKs and attacking FKs--I think you have to either end before the kick or let it play out. No reason to get the grief of stopping the game as the ball enters the goal area in an attack. (And many players are convinced that they are absolutely entitled to take the CK or FK before the game ends . . . .)
 

RefJef

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Level 6 Referee
I earned myself big brownie points with something similar ...

I was fairly new to this particular Sunday league, and it was the first time I’d ref-Ed these two teams. A cold, damp January morning, it was time for half time, and home team manager asked me to blow for half time when ball had been hoofed of for a throw in on At halfway on the far side.

”I‘ll just wait till someone gets the ball” says I to said manager. And lo and behold, a player troops of to collect the ball that was 20 yards from the pitch, returns to the touch line & throws in. I blow for half-time.

”Nice one ref, i see what you did there. thanks” says the manager with a grin.

I always wait till someones gets the ball before I blow.
 

GraemeS

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I don't necessarily have the restart, but certainly let the ball come back to the field!

The one I think is trickier is CKs and attacking FKs--I think you have to either end before the kick or let it play out. No reason to get the grief of stopping the game as the ball enters the goal area in an attack. (And many players are convinced that they are absolutely entitled to take the CK or FK before the game ends . . . .)
I have on occasion told players "You've got just long enough to hoof it in" - which has resulted in me just blowing for time when they decide to try a clever tippy-tappy routine afterwards.
 

ladbroke8745

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Level 6 Referee
I have on occasion told players "You've got just long enough to hoof it in" - which has resulted in me just blowing for time when they decide to try a clever tippy-tappy routine afterwards.
I've done that and explained to managers who moan at the end who in turn moan at their players.
Even recently, had a free kick, player asks how long and I said this will be last attack. Free kick on half way line.
Instead of getting it into the area, they passed it to the guy stood 4 yards away to his right, who touches it 3 or 4 times and pauses. I blow the whistle to end the game. For me, they had about 10-15 seconds on the ball and not even tried to get it in. As I blow, you could see the player lump it forward.
Manager says they were attacking.
I said to manager that the kicker asked how long and I said this will be the last attack. Not my fault he played it short and he sat with the ball for 10 seconds before hitting it when I blew for full time.
He knew he should have played it long if they had any hope.
He chose to ignore me.

Manager turned to his kicker and said why didn't he play it in. He then thanked me and walked with his kicker.
 

socal lurker

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and I said this will be last attack.

I'd suggest that's not the best answer, as it is ambiguous as to whether they get as much time as they want to attack. I think you are better off with "less than a minute" or "not many seconds." (I sometimes miss the "good old days" when the standard practice was to not answer these questions at all or to only answer in very cryptic terms.)
 

ladbroke8745

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I'd suggest that's not the best answer, as it is ambiguous as to whether they get as much time as they want to attack. I think you are better off with "less than a minute" or "not many seconds." (I sometimes miss the "good old days" when the standard practice was to not answer these questions at all or to only answer in very cryptic terms.)
Fair point.
I do normally ignore a lot of "requests". I tend to ignore managers who shout at me to get my attention immediately after a decision that may have iinfuriated them. So even if it's a sub, they can wait. Should probably treat players in similar way.
 

Tealeaf

Lighting the darkest hour
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Level 5 Referee
If it’s high in the air it’s in a neutral area, seems to be an oft cited rationale.

Not a fan myself. If it’s out of play and times up that’s that.
 
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