Although ordering a retake is sensible refereeing, it should be an indirect free kick to the opposition according to law.
Only if the player touches it again. If, as in OP, the kicker plays the ball and walks away leaving it for another there's no offence.
Kind of. You are correct but if a player then dribbles with the ball they're obviously touching it more than once. Their first touch could be seen as a corner being taken, the second touch of the dribble is an offence.
touch the ball walk away
Not the same thing.If, as in OP, the kicker plays the ball
Not an observer (for football refereeing, anyway) but: at the grade in question, would you allow a foul throw or an incorrectly executed free kick to be taken again?I would love to hear an observer's opinion on this; although it should be an indirect free kick according to law, ordering a retake will be best for match control. What's the best option?
It depends what kind of 'touch' - was the ball kicked and did it clearly move?Quick question, on corners are players allowed to touch the ball walk away and another player come and dribble with it?
it does not need to leave the corner area
If a player or team has mentioned the intention, then the referee can't claim to have missed it, as to do so would be in breach of the LOTG. Otherwise, from a distance, the ball should move sufficiently that it is seen to do so. If the taker runs off, leaving it to a teammate, I'd like to think I'd be shouting "ball is in play"Others in the thread have already cleared up that if the ball 'is kicked and clearly moves' then it's a legal corner kick. So the key question is whether the referee actually sees the ball move when it is first played by the initial attacker. If you DO see it move then you've no basis for stopping the play ... those who are saying 'not on my pitch' need to be very careful with this. That said, assuming the referee is in a "typical" position for a corner, the ball will need to move a reasonable amount for this to be clearly seen by the official AND he needs to be looking in that direction rather than at the likely drop zone.
My past experience is that teams who are planning this maneouvre will often mention it to me in advance of the game starting, allowing me to be switched onto it. For me, it's allowed in the LOTG so I've no problem with it ... for those who think it's against the spirit of the game, I'd suggest that you always have the option of bellowing "Ball is in Play" to give the opposition a fighting chance
Who said that? Can't see it in any of the postsClaiming to not have seen something is not in breach of the laws of the game. What a stupid thing to say.
Who said that? Can't see it in any of the posts
If a player or team has mentioned the intention, then the referee can't claim to have missed it, as to do so would be in breach of the LOTG. Otherwise, from a distance, the ball should move sufficiently that it is seen to do so. If the taker runs off, leaving it to a teammate, I'd like to think I'd be shouting "ball is in play"
We've had this a few times before....
I think it's all about how you manage it - fairly
If someone asks me before the game if they can do this kind of corner routine, I will explain the law TO BOTH TEAMS. That's fair and - bonus - makes any silly bu**ers less likely to happen.
If it happens during a game, there are a few options:
- Do nothing - implying that you've seen it clearly move. I don't like this because - if it wasn't that "clear" then match control suffers
- Penalise it - implying you didn't think it moved. If that side's AR flags that's great - but it's not an easy sell for a ref and the takers are going to complain and match control will suffer.
- Communicate it - "ball's in play" - this is my preferred, just like any other small player or AR communication during a game, you've communicated you are happy that it's moved and you've managed everyone's expectations. For me this isn't helping one side unfairly, it's just common sense communication like "carry on" or an advantage signal.
If a player or team has mentioned the intention, then the referee can't claim to have missed it, as to do so would be in breach of the LOTGYou did, here:
If a player or team has mentioned the intention, then the referee can't claim to have missed it, as to do so would be in breach of the LOTG
is not the same as;
Claiming to not have seen something is not in breach of the laws of the game
in the context of my reply (as part of a discussion)
Stop trolling please. It's boring for everyone