Bristol City v Sheff Utd
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Amazed how much sky were trying to drum up drama by saying how much of a questionable decision it was and also quite taken a back by how many on social media are saying it's not a red.
The only reason the defender can even claim to attempt to play the ball is because they've dragged the attacker down from behind.
I don't understand why sky or even the post-match interviewers can't explain the law and challenge the manager when he is complaining. Would go a long way to informing non-referees.
The only reason the defender can even claim to attempt to play the ball is because they've dragged the attacker down from behind.
I don't understand why sky or even the post-match interviewers can't explain the law and challenge the manager when he is complaining. Would go a long way to informing non-referees.
I can say with 100% confidence that employers prefer the pundits not to know the LOTG to encourage controversy, pushing incorrect opinions on easily influenced "fans". One of the biggest issues in the sport is that a referee can say one thing and it holds no value against the opinion of a non-referee saying another.
Or the lead presenters at least so they can correct/challenge.
Won't happen though. People not generally interested in what the LotG actually say, just their personal opinion of what it should be.
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I’m not sure that’s a valid point, depending of course upon who the pundit is. If you are referring to Don Goodman then of course he does know something about football, with his professional career lasting nearly 20 years, having played nearly 600 games & scored 162 goals - albeit quite a while ago.
It was an attempt at humour
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I think that last part is an issue for many pundits, and not just in soccer. Things change. The good ones keep up with change, and the weak ones just think about everything from the lens of when they played (or did whatever).
I’ve just seen the quotes from Bristol City’s Manager about the sending off of his defender & that the Referee should have been nowhere near this game (wow!). In particular he stated - “First and foremost we didn't defend well enough leading to us being exposed at the back and then Rob on the recovery, if he pulls him, fair enough, but he actually kicks the ball. "The only reason it should be a red if there's no attempt to play the ball. I don't know how you can attempt to not play the ball and kick it; it's madness."
The only reason he was able to make any contact with the ball was that he pulled back the defender without any attempt to play the ball & happened to make contact with the ball. Hopefully, this red wont be rescinded. Perhaps they have been practicing that type of incident to try & claim that there was an attempt to play the ball - it wouldn’t surprise me.
Yeah kicking the ball doesn't mean that the upper body contact (or pull) counts as a challenge for the ball.
I do feel like this one is close to the mark of what can go down as a challenge for the ball, but I certainly don't think a red card is wrong.
I didn't like the suggestion by the B City manager that they had told Kevin Friend he shouldn't be on the game because he's made other big decisions against them - that is very close to being an accusation of deliberate bias.
I do feel like this one is close to the mark of what can go down as a challenge for the ball, but I certainly don't think a red card is wrong.
I didn't like the suggestion by the B City manager that they had told Kevin Friend he shouldn't be on the game because he's made other big decisions against them - that is very close to being an accusation of deliberate bias.
On the Referee’s previous red cards, only one has been rescinded & we know that doesn’t mean to say he was wrong - though that’s not how the BC Manager sees it. The behaviour of Real Madrid & Barcelona is now filtering through here it seems, though there has been many big English clubs that don’t like certain appointments, though thankfully I think in every case or very nearly in every case, PGMOL have stuck to their guns & rightly so.
I am right in thinking these games usually fall to the prem refs (whatever that group is called these days)?
If so I can see their point that this ref perhaps should get this game...but I watched the game and he and this decision were excellent so it's mostly irrelevant and just a stick/excuse to beat pgmol with
If so I can see their point that this ref perhaps should get this game...but I watched the game and he and this decision were excellent so it's mostly irrelevant and just a stick/excuse to beat pgmol with
In their defence, the studio pundits Troy Deeney and Jobi Mcanuff both agreed that it was a red card at half time. Don Goodman is usually one of the better co-commentators when it comes to the laws, and he got it half right in that he said he thought if it was a challenge for the ball it would only be a yellow card.