Thoughts on this penalty, from the corner from 5:40 in the video. I was at the game, no one had any clue there was a review going on and when a penalty was given everyone was baffled. I'm really not seeing it, yes there is contact from the keeper on Leah Williamson but it was fairly minimal, and she was clearly laughing about it immediately after with her opponent.
Arsenal vs Lyon
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Lucarelli99
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Not enough in that for a VAR intervention for me
Peter Grove
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Just playing devil's advocate, this was a punch to the back of a player's head, with the ball about two feet away. And when there's hand/arm contact to the head area, I think the threshold for allowable contact is always lower.
I'm happy with the intervention as punching another player's head is nearly always going to be (at least) a careless foul. It can look softer when slowed down which it is the majority of the time in this footage.
It clearly lands on the back of Williamson's skull not just the pony tail.
It clearly lands on the back of Williamson's skull not just the pony tail.
RefJef
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Also playing devil’s advocate, this wasn’t a punch to the head, but a head butt on the arm of the goal keeper.
Whose body part occupied the space first? The Arsenal payer wasn’t stationary, but moved at pace into the goalkeeper.
For me, six of one and half a dozen of the other. These things happen, no-one hurt, at the risk of sounding like a long since banned member:
“Play on!”
Whose body part occupied the space first? The Arsenal payer wasn’t stationary, but moved at pace into the goalkeeper.
For me, six of one and half a dozen of the other. These things happen, no-one hurt, at the risk of sounding like a long since banned member:
“Play on!”
Be interesting to know what prompted the VAR intervention.
Did any of the onfield officials see it and ask the question?
Without VAR it appears that no one would have batted an eyelid and just played on, seems unnecessary for me. One of those as a referee you wish you had never been sent to the screen. A bit like when your assistant flags for a penalty that no one has seen or appealed for and now you have a decision to make.
Did any of the onfield officials see it and ask the question?
Without VAR it appears that no one would have batted an eyelid and just played on, seems unnecessary for me. One of those as a referee you wish you had never been sent to the screen. A bit like when your assistant flags for a penalty that no one has seen or appealed for and now you have a decision to make.
That's where I'm at with it, it's as much the player heading the keeper's hand as it is a punch. And the force is negligible, had it been a full on punch she wouldn't have got straight back up and certainly wouldn't be laughing about it.
There weren't any appeals from players or the crowd, and the crowd had been moaning and booing at some of the referee's decisions, VAR isn't supposed to be finding things that not a single other person has seen.
Don't think the attacker really knows what has happened as she was facing away from the keeper, so wouldn't read too much from her reaction.