Thank you rusty.
Do you think I should have abandoned the game? I was stubborn here as the team was 3-1 down at the time and abandoning the match may have rewarded them?
I dunno. I need clarification of law on this for future occurrence.
Worst abuse and threats I have ever received.
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Do you think I should have abandoned the game? I was stubborn here as the team was 3-1 down at the time and abandoning the match may have rewarded them?
I dunno. I need clarification of law on this for future occurrence.
Jesus. That sounds horrific. I only had a ball in the face and the threat of being punched.
Horrific this happened to you.
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Ok. Good advice. I didn’t feel under threat from the rest of the players and once the player was ejected I felt ok.
Then I had the parent after the match which if my phone was on my direct person, I would have called the police.
Forget about the score, who is winning, etc. The only question you should ask yourself is do you feel safe and comfortable continuing the game. If yes carry on, if not abandon. That decision might be based on a number of factors, such as is the person that assaulted you still at the venue, are his team mates and the opposition protective of you, etc. If the remaining players are protecting you sometimes the worst thing to do can be to abandon, as you are then losing that protection and leaving the pitch to somewhere the guilty party may still be. There's no right and wrong answer though.
Really sorry to hear about this - appalling behaviour.
If you suffer the misfortune of this happening again, definitely consider abandoning. Not just for your safety but it will accentuate how poor the behaviour was when discipline comes around.
Take a few days to compose yourself before the next run out and I hope this never happens to you again.
If you suffer the misfortune of this happening again, definitely consider abandoning. Not just for your safety but it will accentuate how poor the behaviour was when discipline comes around.
Take a few days to compose yourself before the next run out and I hope this never happens to you again.
Firstly hope your ok only advice I have outside of what you have already done is make clear you are not saying you personally saw him throw the ball as you will no doubt be asked if he requests a personal hearing so best to be honest as you say there were witness should be bang to rights.
Wow, I mean tbf im not surprised its U18 and watford, who have a bad reputation and many are aggressive.
For this reason I only like to ref up U15 as I am only U17 myself I would never ref anything over as they would be all over me. (well for now at least).
This being said dont worry too much about it, the past is the past, at least you didnt get in a fight and can move on.
(How old are you out of curiosity?)
So I find the league to be a bit tougher than the west Herts league. I’ve issued more red cards than I’ve ever done before.
I’m 48.
Firstly. Thank you everyone for the support. Especially to people who reached out to me by direct messages. It’s very much appreciated.
I’ve already been contacted by the fa about my report and asking for any further info. I’ve taken everything on board that has been said and I’m looking forward to my next match.
Thank you everyone.
I’ve already been contacted by the fa about my report and asking for any further info. I’ve taken everything on board that has been said and I’m looking forward to my next match.
Thank you everyone.
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Late to this thread. Hope you are OK @Ori . You sound OK from your posts now 
. It's a terrible feeling after the game but it gets better as time goes by. I have not been assaulted but have come close.
A lot of good advice here. The only thing I would add is police report. You were physically assaulted and it is a matter to be reported to police, football or not. IT is also to put them on record and hopefully to discourage a repeat to someone else (again football or not).
When it comes to reporting to police, the question I ask myself is that if something like that happened I my usual workplace would I report it to police? The fact that it's recreational sport shouldn't make it less reportable.
. It's a terrible feeling after the game but it gets better as time goes by. I have not been assaulted but have come close.A lot of good advice here. The only thing I would add is police report. You were physically assaulted and it is a matter to be reported to police, football or not. IT is also to put them on record and hopefully to discourage a repeat to someone else (again football or not).
When it comes to reporting to police, the question I ask myself is that if something like that happened I my usual workplace would I report it to police? The fact that it's recreational sport shouldn't make it less reportable.
Kes
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The reason (to me) is obvious.
If the actions of the player by deliberately handling the ball are Unsporting (in your opinion) then of course you can caution for it. The fact is that 99.9% of the time there'll be a reason for the player doing that (normally SPA) but that's not to say you can't caution for a handball outside of that remit - especially when it's done deliberately, cynically or demonstrates a lack of respect for the game. It's also what the players would expect.
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Where a player/club are found to have caused a match to be abandoned due to misconduct, the points would be awarded to the opposition regardless of the score at the time.
Continuing the match after an incident like this is very risky, even if at the time you believe you're physically and mentally ok to carry on (which could turn out to be incorrect in hindsight). Had anything further occurred during the rest of the game, then the argument could be used that your judgement was impaired due to the previous incident.
As for daddy coming on the pitch after the game to tell you what a great job you did, as this is U18s this is a safeguarding issue as well as a disciplinary issue, so I would speak to your CFA just to make sure it's been passed on to the safeguarding team.
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You're right that certain specific actions are SO Unsporting that they deserve / require a YC even if their tactical impact wouldn't strictly meet the threshold for SPA. Other examples tend to be things like extreme holding (think rugby tackle
). However there is also a large subset of handballs that are clearly deliberate but should NOT be carded, especially as this runs the risk of perpetuating the players' myth that deliberate handball is always a YC (doubtless driven by your 99.9% comment). As it happens, I had one as an AR at the weekend ... ball is going harmlessly out for a Blue throw in, Blue defender grabs the ball before it crosses the line in effort to take a quick throw in. I flag, ref gives FK, cue massive appeals that it "must be a yellow card". As such, we need to be very choiceful about pulling out cards for deliberate offences (fouls or handballs) which have no significant match impact.
Once again, thanks for all the comments and advice.
I reffed today a girls u18 cup match as a nice warmup. As I arrive, my sons friend (18 year old) is finishing reffing a junior match. Obvious hellos etc…..I ask him if he is free to run the line. I offer him half my fee (as he is my son’s close friend) and he says ok. I ask the manager of the home side and he says wonderful! I explain to him that I will pay for him.
Gave same briefing to both assistants and asked him not to call for fouls as it’s not right that one can and one can’t.
Match goes well. He is a new ref and appreciated the experience at u18.
Manager at end of the match says how nice it is not to have a dad and he has begged the league for the rules to change. He pays me and pulls out an extra £20 for the assistant. I said that’s not necessary and he said it was his pleasure.
Reason I’m sharing this, is just to highlight how nice managers can be and it’s not all doom and gloom out there.
I reffed today a girls u18 cup match as a nice warmup. As I arrive, my sons friend (18 year old) is finishing reffing a junior match. Obvious hellos etc…..I ask him if he is free to run the line. I offer him half my fee (as he is my son’s close friend) and he says ok. I ask the manager of the home side and he says wonderful! I explain to him that I will pay for him.
Gave same briefing to both assistants and asked him not to call for fouls as it’s not right that one can and one can’t.
Match goes well. He is a new ref and appreciated the experience at u18.
Manager at end of the match says how nice it is not to have a dad and he has begged the league for the rules to change. He pays me and pulls out an extra £20 for the assistant. I said that’s not necessary and he said it was his pleasure.
Reason I’m sharing this, is just to highlight how nice managers can be and it’s not all doom and gloom out there.
This is absolutely it, some managers are amazing!
I stopped doing the youth league. Not because the overall experience was rubbish. Just the lows weren't worth it for me. 90-95% of games were really good, a healthy amount of managers really went above and beyond.
Just the 5% of rubbish ones, were just frustrating. Parents and coaches who are also parents trying to tell you 13 year olds might die if you continue to referee like that.