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Heading ban for u12s (England)

Just had a nosey at the laws/protocol.
Headers in the penalty area are idfk from the penalty mark... Is this a precursor to all idfk in the area being from penalty spot?
aren't all free kicks in the younger years, direct ?
 
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aren't all free kicks in the younger years, direct ?
No idea. Haven't done mini soccer for a long time but u12s are 11 a side anyway.
The protocol says idfk from where deliberately headed but from penalty mark it in penalty area
 
Just had a nosey at the laws/protocol.
Headers in the penalty area are idfk from the penalty mark... Is this a precursor to all idfk in the area being from penalty spot?

Yes .. and the explanation gives two reasons why IDFK are not as advantageous to attacking teams under the current laws ..
aren't all free kicks in the younger years, direct ?
Yes they are .. my County FA say that they have asked for clarification on this
 
Just had a nosey at the laws/protocol.
Headers in the penalty area are idfk from the penalty mark... Is this a precursor to all idfk in the area being from penalty spot?

Different size penalty areas, and penalty spot distances at younger age groups and some ages don't have goal areas at all.
 
So, little un's can't deliberately head the ball, but can stand a few yards away in a wall and have it smashed towards their face ?
 
Why make this so complicated?

Simply have a no drop kick rule for keepers and eliminate 99% of the issue. These are the header's that children get wrong and cause issues. At the same time you're encouraging them (actually coaches) to play football instead of route one punting.
 
Why make this so complicated?

Simply have a no drop kick rule for keepers and eliminate 99% of the issue. These are the header's that children get wrong and cause issues. At the same time you're encouraging them (actually coaches) to play football instead of route one punting.
exactly. Just ban drop kicks and punts upfield
 
I refereed a youth tournament last weekend where they disallowed drop kicks. The keepers just bounced the ball on the ground first it made absolutely no difference.
In the US with punting bans (10U) we've been clear that doesn't wash . . . if it quacks like a duck, it's a duck . . .
 
Nottinghamshire: u10s and below is mini-soccer, retreat on GKs and all fks direct. U11s upwards full LOTG in 9v9 or 11v11
 
Received the IFAB rules today on this trial…

Looks like it is essentially going to be like handball .. in that deliberately heading the ball is a YC or RC offence depending on situation.. seems over the top to me for under 12s but I guess they need to have clarity
That's not what the law on handball is. Simply deliberately handling the ball is not any colour of card, it's just a free kick.

If they are making heading a cardable offence, especially at this age, then I think that's a mistake. For me it should be like in the US where as @socal lurker pointed out, there is no sanction for this, just an indirect free kick.
 
Just had a nosey at the laws/protocol.
Headers in the penalty area are idfk from the penalty mark... Is this a precursor to all idfk in the area being from penalty spot?
Interesting ....
IDFK from the edge of the goal area always causes carnage (as do others less than 10yards from the goal line), which is one reason many of us err on the side of only giving them if we absolutely have to. This would be a sensible alternative
 
Most grassroots football in Australia outlaw slide-tackles in "over" age groups for safety concerns. It's punishable by IFK. It has been around for a long time and accepted by all.

I don't see any difference here with the exception of the "over" age groups are passed their peak while the "Unders" are on the way to their peak and developing. That's one of the reasons I suggested it to be allowed in the PA.
 
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Most grassroots football in Australia outlaw slide-tackles in "over" age groups for safety concerns. It's punishable by IFK. It has been around for a long time and accepted by all.

I don't see any difference here with the exception of the "over" age groups are passed their peek while the "Unders" are on the way to their peek and developing. That's one of the reasons I suggested it to be allowed in the PA.
Totally disagree with allowing it in the PA. Part of the reason to ban it in games is to ban it in training, as it is the repetitive act that is seen as problematic on the developing brain. And players spend (or at least should spend) more time training than in games. If players aren't learning in training how to properly head the ball, they shouldn't be doing it games--players who don't learn to head the ball properly are often just letting it hit their head, which can be worse than a controlled header.
 
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