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Gillingham Vs Fleetwood double red

Redref34

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thoughts on this guys?

As far as I am aware.. direct free kick goes to the Gillingham Player (in blue) but both are sent off for the same tackle.

I will try and find a better and longer video.

Has anyone ever sent off two players for the same tackle? What would the restart be if you did this?
 
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I sit sort of opposite to this angle, and the Fleetwood player certainly used excessive force, and from this angle it looks like Kelman did too.

I was going to come on here and ask a similar question, as we (Gillingham) got a free kick.

I assumed that in the absence of any afters etc that two offence occurred at the same time and the referee punished the more serious, which in this case would have been the Fleetwood players challenge.
 
Was the Gillingham player definitely sent off for SFP and not any kind of reaction to it?

I've slowed it down and after multiple replays still can't really pick the bones out of it. If anything I think the Gillingham player's tackle is slightly worse, he's the one that has gone chasing the ball, come from further away and was running faster before the tackle. Nightmare for the referee who gets one look and has both teams demanding a red card. Guess he's decided to give them both one and then effectively had to guess on the restart.
 
Was the Gillingham player definitely sent off for SFP and not any kind of reaction to it?

I've slowed it down and after multiple replays still can't really pick the bones out of it. If anything I think the Gillingham player's tackle is slightly worse, he's the one that has gone chasing the ball, come from further away and was running faster before the tackle. Nightmare for the referee who gets one look and has both teams demanding a red card. Guess he's decided to give them both one and then effectively had to guess on the restart.
Would it be feasible to send two players off for the same tackle but restart with a free kick to one team, as the offence they committed was deemed worse? Surely both offences are of equal standing in the game (red card)
 
In all seriousness though, red card for blue.

I can't take blue seriously because he's getting lessons from Neymar. Have a look at his nip, tuck and roll at the end there. Get out of here. 😩
 
Would it be feasible to send two players off for the same tackle but restart with a free kick to one team, as the offence they committed was deemed worse? Surely both offences are of equal standing in the game (red card)
Not really, which is why I wondered if the blue player had done something else. Really you'd want a dropped ball, but obviously can't be contested and it isn't really clear who you'd be giving that to either. Looks like a red defender gets a touch just before the challenge so it should be theirs, but very tricky to tell real time, plus who last touched the ball is right at the back of your mind as you see two players about to launch themselves at each other.

Really, really difficult situation for James Linington.
 
Was the Gillingham player definitely sent off for SFP and not any kind of reaction to it?

I've slowed it down and after multiple replays still can't really pick the bones out of it. If anything I think the Gillingham player's tackle is slightly worse, he's the one that has gone chasing the ball, come from further away and was running faster before the tackle. Nightmare for the referee who gets one look and has both teams demanding a red card. Guess he's decided to give them both one and then effectively had to guess on the restart.
It was hard to tell, there certainly wasn’t anything in the way of afters, unless Kelman (the Gillingham player) said something to either the ref or the Fleetwood player afterwards between the challenge and the cards
 
Don't think we'll ever really know what happened. Vastly experienced SG2 referee in charge though, operating below his normal level, and he's had to make a snap decision. I certainly wouldn't want to be faced with that decision as even with us sitting here on a forum with the ability to watch it back muiltiple times we still can't really work out what should be done.
 
Are dropped balls not used anymore, as I have used they plenty number of times this season, mainly for when the ball hits me.
Yes, but they can't be contested, you drop the ball to the team that last touched it.
 
Yes, but they can't be contested, you drop the ball to the team that last touched it.
Ah I thought you meant all together they got rid of dropped balls but just contested ones, mind you that would be very bad if they were still around.
 
I’d gIve the restart (free kick) to whichever team is in their defensive half if giving two reds. No way on your one and only look at that you can pick out who fouled first.
I think it would be more technically correct to give to the attacking team, as that is a more serious sanction based on the field position. (Though I have never been a fan of that amendment to the Laws.)
 
From that angle, blue is the worst, esp as it fits my narative of, heavy touch, followed by lunge.
Based on that one angle, am going red for blue and yellow for red, and fk to red
 
I'm going for 2 reds and probably restart to blue as they were closer to the ball.
Howeeeever, I never understand why ref's stand there in the middle of a melee like that. I'd be walking back 5 yards and making it clear that anyone who comes near me will be cautioned. I'd happily card anyone who continues to follow me after the second warning. Staying put just allows the players to congregate leading to higher chance of scuffles and not getting a good view.
 
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