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Amazed it wasn't overturned to a red. Top of the thigh, leg outstretched and certainly well beyond a "glancing blow". Was astounded it was overturned to a red.

If you slow it right down, at the point of contact his knee is bent and that is what caused the cut as it effectively pull the studs down his leg. I think if he had hit him with the leg still straight he would be off, although ironically that probably wouldn't cause a cut.
 
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If you slow it right down, at the point of contact his knee is bent and that is what caused the cut as it effectively pull the studs down his leg. I think if he had hit him with the leg still straight he would be off, although ironically that probably wouldn't cause a cut.

I get what you're saying but for me we've hit the endangering safety of the opponent criteria comfortably here. It just seemed put of kilter with previous decisions of a similar nature.
 
Nothing to see here... I agree, the injury means nothing. By chance, City and VAR have been very good acquaintances all season long. As soon as something goes against them, it's the usual fandom drama.
“Varchester City“ is something I’ve seen on Twitter, following up from Varchester United last year and Liverpool last year. Even I’m not biased enough as a United fan to call them that, but they’ve so far had VAR go their way most cases this season. Again, United had it last season, Liverpool year before. There’s no point throwing out slander names suggesting referees are intentionally giving these specific teams decisions. Over the season it all tends to balance itself out anyway. But it’s the sudden turn around of “the media against City” and the “referees are against City” all of a sudden that amazes me, as we see it on social media, as you’d expect, and more surprisingly, on here. I guarantee you if you ask any fellow Red they will tell you how the media are very pro-City and Liverpool and that the referees find dodgy calls to give to Liverpool and City. Any Liverpool fan will tell you similar but with Liverpool replaced by United. The playing the victim is the part that winds me up, and it’s happened on a few threads recently. I get it’s hard to have an objective head when it comes to “your” team sometimes, I try to with United but I reckon sometimes even I fall to it but it’s just winding me up

Mini-rant over, sorry for going off topic, back to this. It’s probably a red for me as I said earlier, but I decided to test it by asking my mates their thoughts. The Liverpool fan and City fan both thought red, whilst the Huddersfield fan and Sheffield Wednesday fan thought not red. With me thinking red, 3-2. So, debatable whether Clear and Obvious. Of course, they’re not qualified referees, but even on here we see some thinking not red. So I can see why it wasn’t overturned.

I'm confused. Clear it should have been a red but not a clear and obvious error?
Dont put words into my mouth come on. One’s already summed it up for me, so I won’t stay on this for long, but come on.
 
No, but I was responding to your assertion that it wasn't given as red because of the injury.
Where did I assert that?

Clear red whatever the damage (but let's not pretend that risk of injury isn't a factor and actual injury doesn't make a difference). Or intent (that was not an attempt to play the ball).

And one of the most pathetic reasons ever given for a wrong VAR decision (the "explanation" for not calling it red even less justifiable than not calling it red).
 
“Varchester City“ is something I’ve seen on Twitter, following up from Varchester United last year and Liverpool last year. Even I’m not biased enough as a United fan to call them that, but they’ve so far had VAR go their way most cases this season. Again, United had it last season, Liverpool year before. There’s no point throwing out slander names suggesting referees are intentionally giving these specific teams decisions. Over the season it all tends to balance itself out anyway. But it’s the sudden turn around of “the media against City” and the “referees are against City” all of a sudden that amazes me, as we see it on social media, as you’d expect, and more surprisingly, on here. I guarantee you if you ask any fellow Red they will tell you how the media are very pro-City and Liverpool and that the referees find dodgy calls to give to Liverpool and City. Any Liverpool fan will tell you similar but with Liverpool replaced by United. The playing the victim is the part that winds me up, and it’s happened on a few threads recently. I get it’s hard to have an objective head when it comes to “your” team sometimes, I try to with United but I reckon sometimes even I fall to it but it’s just winding me up

Mini-rant over, sorry for going off topic, back to this. It’s probably a red for me as I said earlier, but I decided to test it by asking my mates their thoughts. The Liverpool fan and City fan both thought red, whilst the Huddersfield fan and Sheffield Wednesday fan thought not red. With me thinking red, 3-2. So, debatable whether Clear and Obvious. Of course, they’re not qualified referees, but even on here we see some thinking not red. So I can see why it wasn’t overturned.


Dont put words into my mouth come on. One’s already summed it up for me, so I won’t stay on this for long, but come on.

Bizzare to claim City fans are on any different to any other set of fans in believing that the refs are against them. There's a section in all supporters groups that believe this nonsense and my team (City) are no different than any other.
 
Bizzare to claim City fans are on any different to any other set of fans in believing that the refs are against them. There's a section in all supporters groups that believe this nonsense and my team (City) are no different than any other.
Are you ignoring the whole middle part of my paragraph where I said about how Liverpool fans and Manchester United (my club) fans are the exact same in believing this bias? Once again let’s not put words into each other’s mouths. I get it’s a long paragraph 😂 but at least read it before calling me out on it.

I believe it’s a red card, was just ranting about biases in general
 
“Varchester City“ is something I’ve seen on Twitter, following up from Varchester United last year and Liverpool last year. Even I’m not biased enough as a United fan to call them that, but they’ve so far had VAR go their way most cases this season. Again, United had it last season, Liverpool year before. There’s no point throwing out slander names suggesting referees are intentionally giving these specific teams decisions. Over the season it all tends to balance itself out anyway. But it’s the sudden turn around of “the media against City” and the “referees are against City” all of a sudden that amazes me, as we see it on social media, as you’d expect, and more surprisingly, on here. I guarantee you if you ask any fellow Red they will tell you how the media are very pro-City and Liverpool and that the referees find dodgy calls to give to Liverpool and City. Any Liverpool fan will tell you similar but with Liverpool replaced by United. The playing the victim is the part that winds me up, and it’s happened on a few threads recently. I get it’s hard to have an objective head when it comes to “your” team sometimes, I try to with United but I reckon sometimes even I fall to it but it’s just winding me up

Mini-rant over, sorry for going off topic, back to this. It’s probably a red for me as I said earlier, but I decided to test it by asking my mates their thoughts. The Liverpool fan and City fan both thought red, whilst the Huddersfield fan and Sheffield Wednesday fan thought not red. With me thinking red, 3-2. So, debatable whether Clear and Obvious. Of course, they’re not qualified referees, but even on here we see some thinking not red. So I can see why it wasn’t overturned.


Dont put words into my mouth come on. One’s already summed it up for me, so I won’t stay on this for long, but come on.
I'll not stoke the fire of media bias but some journalists plainly have an antipathy toward City.

I still don't get this putting words in your mouth thing. They are the words you used.
 
I'll not stoke the fire of media bias but some journalists plainly have an antipathy toward City.

I still don't get this putting words in your mouth thing. They are the words you used.
City, like Chelsea, never gonna be popular having 'bought success & trophies'. Don't get me wrong, rightly so, there's sudden animosity against Newcastle. Dunno if The Saudis will chuck enough dosh at things to buy the same level undeserved honours. I hope not TBH. I'd rather see modest investment and relative anonymity in comparison. Top team is usually unpopular for one reason or another. That's life
City have had some unreal luck with VAR this season, so I just don't accept the gripe. Yeh, it's probably a red, but nowt to get one's knickers in a twist about when compared to other VAR cr4p. Unless there's some other nonsense fictitious agenda going on
 
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I'll not stoke the fire of media bias but some journalists plainly have an antipathy toward City.

I still don't get this putting words in your mouth thing. They are the words you used.
First of all, I said after seeing Laporte injury it was clearly a red. VAR didn’t check how injured Laporte was. Second of all, the second guy accused me of saying only City fans were biased, which I plainly never said. So words were taken out of my mouth.

But again we go with the media bias. I feel many journalists have the bias against United. I feel many other fans of other clubs will feel the exact same
 
Couldn’t give two flying focks what journalists are saying, looked like a red to me first-glance, then on a replay.
 
A(nother) gentle reminder that this is NOT a fans forum. Take any conspiracy theories, suggestions of bias, etc, somewhere more suitable. Really don't care where, but definitely not on here.
 
Couldn’t give two flying focks what journalists are saying, looked like a red to me first-glance, then on a replay.

agree, journos, fan clubs, leg hanging off or escaped scot free, all having nothing to do with it

the tackle is a red card serious foul play, first view real time, and from any number of views from someone hiding in a tardis.
 
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