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Half agree mate. Sad that I am and the fact that they are so rare this season, I watch any games QPR actually win back in full. Allows me to look at things like added time which I can't do when the match is live for obvious reasons!

Last game v Luton - QPR wasting times (as per), ref, exactly as you describe, puts arm up and points to watch - at least 3 times and without my Hoops' spectacles on, there were at least a couple of other occasions when QPR pushed the 'game management' a little far.

However, come 90' - 'only' 5 minutes added on, which equated exactly to the 5 subs made (one a triple sub) , a 2 minute injury and 30 seconds for a lengthy goal celeb that included a yellow card (shirt over head) - NO time added on for time wasting. It happens every week in the Championship, because teams know refs are not adding the time on. Likewise as I mentioned before GKs routinely take between 10 - 20 seconds to release the ball.

In ref's defence he DID play 5' 30" because QPR made another sub in added time.
Two further points, game was over at 0-2. Playing the minimum required time and get out without any unnecessary card, injuries or incidents seems safe refereeing.

And it was Kenilworth Road. Most people want to get out ASAP.

(Luton boy)
 
Two further points, game was over at 0-2. Playing the minimum required time and get out without any unnecessary card, injuries or incidents seems safe refereeing.

And it was Kenilworth Road. Most people want to get out ASAP.

(Luton boy)
Fair point, but time very very rarely gets added on for 'game management', whatever the score!
 
Sky had audio issues yesterday, where the audio was ahead of the commentary.. It was really obvious on the spurs game, but I suspected it on the utd game too.
I didnt see this bit as was cooking tea but I Dony. Recall a big fuss over it, so is it possible the whistle was blown before that ball was played?
 
Mr Dermot Gallagher has had his say on refewatch (ironically) about it. Says Tierney was wrong.
May as well just close the thread down now
 
Mr Dermot Gallagher has had his say on refewatch (ironically) about it. Says Tierney was wrong.
May as well just close the thread down now
Even that Peter bloke on BT Sport has been questioning the OFR's lately. Shocking 🤨
 
Ars v Newc
Coote blew for HT on 44:58
I have to get me one of those Hublot watches cos the rest of ours are nee good!
Shame he didn't blow for FT on 48
 
Gotta say I've done it myself when it's 45:50 and I've no idea who last touched the ball for a throw or corner/goalkick. Also have to admit that on my level, 45" is sometimes already too long for some players so hardly anyone keeps a close watch on what time it really is.
 
Constantly baffles me that managers don't seem to run their own clocks at grassroots level. If I was managing a side, I'd want to know the time before making any sub, but yet I still get constantly asked from the sidelines.
 
Gotta say I've done it myself when it's 45:50 and I've no idea who last touched the ball for a throw or corner/goalkick. Also have to admit that on my level, 45" is sometimes already too long for some players so hardly anyone keeps a close watch on what time it really is.
7-0 down "please end it now... please..." - sorry lads, that wouldn't be fair to the other team or other teams in your division.

(And this is such sweet payback for all that disrespectful shouting and whinging in the first half!)
 
On the time keeping situation, are top levels expected to ‘round up’. Obviously they never play 1:30 of added time for example, it’s always on the minute so if there is a case where there’s been 1:30 of stoppages, would that then become 2?
 
Constantly baffles me that managers don't seem to run their own clocks at grassroots level. If I was managing a side, I'd want to know the time before making any sub, but yet I still get constantly asked from the sidelines.
The manager of our top local team (who is a real a***hole) used the stop watch on his iphone to keep an eye on time. I had them a few years ago in a game they were expecting to win easily but struggled in. The other team scored the winner in added on time before I blew the final whistle a few seconds after the restart as my watch beeped. He came running over to complain "where did that time come from! I didn't have anything like that much added on!" while pointing to his phone. I reminded him about the substitutes, injuries and the fact his team were wasting time at every opportunity, and then told him "of course, as we all know the Referee is the sole judge of time!" His reply was "Huh, I might as well get rid of this then!" I told him "oh no, don't do that. You might be able to use it as a phone!" before walking away. Little things!
 
I don't see an issue with the added time. It's easy enough to believe the referee's watch will slightly differ from TV depending on the exact moment it started I just listened back to 5 Live's coverage and Tierney blows the whistle at end of taking the knee at 01.01 and half time is blown at 47.01, so Tierney presumably started his watch then when Sky did it at the moment kick-off was actually taken.

I don't especially see a better way of doing offside either. I can think of times a referee has made an early decision (Rob Jones with Leeds V Burnley a few weeks ago for instance) and everyone asks why they didn't wait to allow VAR to come in.

You can say they should give the decision if it's obvious but I'm sure there's many an official has thought was obvious at the time which has turned out not to be subsequently so you then basically just end up with saying 'Give offside if it's offside, give onside if it's onside' but if it was that easy we wouldn't need VAR in the first place.


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Does anything in the LOTG or the FA rules requires the referee to play the exact or minimum amount of added time displayed by the 4O? I know the LOTG doesn't, Does the FA rules? Genuine question.

The time displayed can be a rough (rounded to the minute) indication of the amount of added time accumulated so far.
 
Does anything in the LOTG or the FA rules requires the referee to play the exact or minimum amount of added time displayed by the 4O? I know the LOTG doesn't, Does the FA rules? Genuine question.

The time displayed can be a rough (rounded to the minute) indication of the amount of added time accumulated so far.
This is where I was going with my question above. Yes the 4th showed 1 minute but can the referee actually have 55 seconds added time? Obviously to make his life easier he’d just go to 1 minute but does he actually have to? At grassroots level I’m sure all our added time is to the second (or thereabouts) and not rounded up or down to the nearest minute.
 
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