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Slide Tackling

NOVARef

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This was from a Q and A on http://www.askasoccerreferee.com/...I'm wondering if others agrees with this. I've never heard of using the 3 criteria discussed to determine foul, foul and card, or nothing. Especially the speed of the slide...are their really slow slides? Does this do a good job answering the question? I feel like I'm a little more confused. Thanks

Dave, a U13-U19 referee, asks:
I have been searching for an answer to my question and I can’t find one anywhere that addresses what I’m asking. I have read that “It is not a foul if a sliding tackle is successful and the player whose ball was tackled away then falls over the tackler’s foot.” What if the slide tackle is successful and the player doesn’t fall over the tackler’s foot, but instead, falls over the tackler’s upper leg or body that has slid in front of the player’s path after the successful tackle? Is it a foul if a player falls over some body part other than the tackler’s foot after a successful tackle?

Answer:

The criteria for a foul which is associated with a sliding tackle is pretty straightforward. Three major initial issues are (a) what was the direction of the slide, (b) what is the speed of the slide, and (c) what did the slider follow up doing immediately after the slider’s contact with the ball.

Regarding the first item (direction of slide), there is basically a “sliding scale” (no pun intended) regarding the degree of potential Law violation. In short, all other things equal, the farther away from coming in directly in front of the slider’s target of the slider, the more likely the slide is potentially dangerous and thus at least a foul if not both a foul and misconduct. The most common element generally is the degree to which the action of the slider is known or knowable by the target. This means that the slide tackle from behind is the most likely to result in a foul and a misconduct (though it can be done legally if it is done perfectly). One of the critical elements here is the degree to which the target can see or be aware of the slide. On the other hand, all other things equal, the slide from the front of the target and assuming the target is also looking at a forward direction, the less likely the action would involve a violation.

Regarding the second element (speed of the slide), the issue is generally fairly simple – the faster the slide, the more likely it will result in a violation and an assessment of danger. Again, note that any slide necessarily carries an element of danger by itself if for no other reason that a slide on the ground generally involves less control by the slider … but adding speed increases this danger.

Finally, regarding the completion of a slide, what happens after the slide has contacted the ball and/or the body of the opponent carries its own set of criteria. For example, the slider comes from the front and not at a high speed, and doesn’t makes contact with the ball or the opponent in any way, it is almost certain that there is no likelihood of a violation. But, change any one or more of these three elements (slow speed, frontal direction relative to the opponent, and contact only with the ball over the duration of the slide) and you have a series of issues which individually will likely involve at minimum a foul and potentially misconduct also.

For example, making contact with the ball is, by itself, nothing more than the objective of the slide tackle but, add any (much less more than one) of the following and there is almost certainly a foul and/or in addition a misconduct – the misconduct element is already primed to be an element because sliding on the ground is almost inherently dangerous to begin with. Perhaps the slider makes contact with the ball and then the slider’s foot continues over the top or from the side of the ball to the opponent’s foot. Perhaps one foot clearly and otherwise legally makes contact with the ball but the other foot is placed higher and makes contact with the opponent.

Not surprisingly, the single most dangerous sliding tackle (foul plus misconduct, with the latter being usually at the red card level) is from behind, at high speed, with one or both feet making contact with one or both legs (or higher) and with studs up.
 
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Slide tacking Carries it's own Risk.
I'm looking at was the tackler in control of his body.
Distance travel
Speed
Direction ( behind/side/front)
Position of tackling foot and position of trailing foot/leg.

You will alway get players saying I got the ball ref.

My answer based on the above would be you may of got the ball but not in control of body. (Contact of trailing leg or foot.)

In my opinion you got the player first

That was more of a Lunge in my opinion thank you.

It you feel the challange was careless you may want to have a word if it was reckless then take action.

Also if you feel it was a good slid tackle say that.

Good tackle
Well done got the ball
Good challange carry on.

I'm opinion players at grassroots are more likely to accept a decision if they know what you seen, even if they don't agree.
 
There are transAtlantic diffetences in the interpretation of some aspects of the game. You may do better to concentrate on UK sites for guidance.
The site you quoted has a number of articles and questions on the subject of slide tackles - the others quote law.
 
That particular site has an interesting history. It arose from a view at USSF that there was bad information floating around, and it was initially manned by Jim Allen and was the official word of USSF. Later, I think around the same time USSF stopped publishing Advice to Referees, USSF removed the official recognition from the site, and it was no longer an official promulgation. (Jim was also one of the primary authors of Advice to Referees, and I learned a heck of a lot from Jim and from Advice to Referees over the years.) Jim retired from the site several years back, and I stopped following it after he left, as I didn't find the changed site as valuable as it was when Jim ran it. (I found the new author, while often having decent content, sometimes feels like the worst of Dickens getting paid by the word . . . .)

All that said, I think the explanation on there isn't bad at all. Ultimately in every slide tackle with contact, the R has to decide if the tackle was carless or reckless. Direction and speed both factor into the force of the collision, and affect what it means to be careless or reckless. And what comes after the ball is cleared away is definitely a useful factor. But those three don't capture and I think with experience a slide tackle is ultimately judged by referees in more of a gestalt way, taking in the whole event. For me, the best simple consideration is basically the one that was in the question: did the slider go through the opponent, or did the opponent just fall over the slider after the ball was played away.
 
You will alway get players saying I got the ball ref.

My answer based on the above would be you may of got the ball but not in control of body. (Contact of trailing leg or foot.)

Also if you feel it was a good slid tackle say that.

Well done got the ball

Whilst I fully agree with some verbal communication to tell everyone you’re happy with the tackle; by saying “well done, got the ball” or pointing at the ball as I’ve seen some refs do, you’re feeding into the believe that players have of Ball first = no foul!
 
I think it is an interesting article. But I think the terminology is going to get confusing as there are different ways to break this down from IFAB in the LotG, UEFA in their training resources and FIFA in the “considerations”.

The FIFA considerations PDF is the one to search.
 
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