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Time to play Devil's advocate. Why not play advantage and award the goal?
Ciley Myrus
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Cant play advantage there! Why not? Because an advantage is when a team is offended against , in this case, the error or fault is againgst the LOTG
Ciley Myrus
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Its same as if goal kick is rolling and not going to make it to outside pen area defender realises this, and kicks ball before its left pen area but it falls to striker who scores. The offence penalised is technical because until ball leaves pen area, all bets are off.
Ciley Myrus
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Its not the non offending team though have been offended against.
Its the LOTG which have been offended against. Thus negating the non offending team from the equation.
Its the LOTG which have been offended against. Thus negating the non offending team from the equation.
Correct. No advantage because, as has been discussed many times before, there is no penal offence against the opponent, just a technical offence, e.g. no advantage from an offside.
Ciley Myrus
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2 observers are giving you the answer and explaining why
Ciley Myrus
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Advantage can only be applied when an offence is committed againgst another player/team
No offence was committed againgst anyone, human, player
The offence committed breached the LOTG, inhumane, inanimate, whatever you wish to call them, Advantage is not applicable is such cases
Sorry if its been a topic before
No offence was committed againgst anyone, human, player
The offence committed breached the LOTG, inhumane, inanimate, whatever you wish to call them, Advantage is not applicable is such cases
Sorry if its been a topic before
It doesn't but LOTG state
1. Advantage
The referee may play advantage whenever an offence occurs but should consider the following in deciding whether to apply the advantage or stop play:
• the severity of the offence – if the offence warrants a sending-off, the referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a clear opportunity to score a goal
• the position where the offence was committed - the closer to the opponent’s goal, the more effective the advantage can be
• the chances of an immediate, promising attack
• the atmosphere of the match
So good luck with the "atmosphere" of the game if you give the goal.
bester
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Thank you for your e mail.
'Advantage' is where the referee allows play to continue when a player has committed an offence and by not penalising this offence there is a 'benefit' to the non-offending team.
It is very clear that this applies to Law 11 - Offside and thus in the circumstances you outline this is clearly application of the advantage as outlined in Law 5.
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David Elleray
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Thank you for your e mail.
'Advantage' is where the referee allows play to continue when a player has committed an offence and by not penalising this offence there is a 'benefit' to the non-offending team.
It is very clear that this applies to Law 11 - Offside and thus in the circumstances you outline this is clearly application of the advantage as outlined in Law 5.
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David Elleray
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The International Football Association Board - IFAB
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It was a discussion about an offside offence being signalled by an AR and the referee signalling advantage when the GK collected the ball into his arms. It became tedious over the penal vs technical offence thing
Send DE another one with this scenario and get his interpretation of the law
Ciley Myrus
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lets make it simple. Free kick taken by centre half 25 yards from own goal, he miskicks it and centre forward is rushing in, defender realises this so takes a second touch but it falls to striker who belts ball in from 25 yards. You cant play advantage here because as soon as defender takes second touch the LOTG have been infringed.
Joe Hart goal kick v QPR? Correctly retaken.
In short, by breaking a requirement of the law, advantage is null and void.
When a team or player have been infringed, advantage is good to go
Joe Hart goal kick v QPR? Correctly retaken.
In short, by breaking a requirement of the law, advantage is null and void.
When a team or player have been infringed, advantage is good to go
Joe Hart - ball was not in play when the second touch occurred so not a great example
I would lean towards an idfk here. Think this would be very harsh on the keeper to award a goal... a freak gust of wind so no1 us going to give you any grief for saying idfk. Give a goal kiss goodbye to any control you had in the match.
Yes, the laws say advantage can be applied for an offence but I think a common sense approach to refereeing is required here.
santa sangria
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This is not correct though according to the LotG and the IFAB though, right?
I don't mean this to be as confrontational as it sounds but its seems to as though you're just making this up (which I know you can't be because Brian agrees so it must have been written/discussed somewhere).
I understand what you're trying to say however I can't see in the LOTG why advantage can't be applied here (unless you're thinking DOGSO); an offence has been committed (the second touch), the striker's team would benefit from the advantage so therefore advantage should be played.
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