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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    A lot of words from me, a lot of words from you, a lot of words from others. I appreciate it. But, I don't understand how a defender holding and stopping (or slowing down) a forward from getting to the ball is 50:50. Does the defender have any reason to have his hands around the attackers...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Nothing against your opinion on the two young lads Keith and Mark but as opposed to Dermot Gallagher who went on Sky and called the Gabriel Jesus incident "a tangling of legs". LOL. That's gas-lighting of the highest order. I think anyone with a two eyes and a brain wouldn't call that incident a...
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    Wilson Lloris

    Another viewpoint from another referee, which I'm on the same side. "So I didn't watch much EPL this weekend and am just catching up. By the descriptions here and what I had heard elsewhere, I thought this was going to be a 50/50 type call where I was totally fine with whatever was decided...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Thanks for the reply. I see the point of contact and pulling/holding that warrants a penalty before the player goes down. So from my angle the if, when, how the player goes down is irrelevant. It's still a penalty even if the player stays on his feet at the end of the play. I also think we are...
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    Wilson Lloris

    Tight one and I'm quite strong in my beliefs that GK's are a lot stronger than than behave and don't need quite so much protection in the box. Interesting I am sure there are ref's on this forum and around that are suggesting this wasn't a foul on Lloris but have given free-kicks to GK's from...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Well, good morning lads. Nice to see we are having a nice debate here. Mark Halsey and Keith Hackett both called the Jesus incident a penalty regardless of what he said the ref told him or what way he went down. I think ref's are human and I wouldn't think it's unusual to hear a comment from a...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    :wall::wall::wall: The foul was also akin to that of Scott McTominay, who gave away a penalty to Chelsea in Manchester United's clash on Saturday for a similar offence. Jesus revealed he spoke to the officials after the game, saying to the official Arsenal website: "I spoke with him straight...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Was the Broja one for Chelsea a penalty or an incorrect decision? Deary me. Seems like VAR, the rule changes and maybe post pandemic and the government mess/economic crisis/cost of living crisis has gone to some people's heads if we are now allowing holding/impending of that level on Jesus and...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Happy to have a discussion. I'm not an Arsenal fan. A Barnet and Brentford fan actually, but I thought the referee was below par yesterday and there seemed to be a reluctance from VAR to get involved yesterday. It's not simulation it's football. There's simulation in every sense of the word...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Hi James, 45 seconds in. This was waved away by Atwell but the VAR got involved and it was reviewed to be a penalty. Same team involved but apart from the Broja incident two nights ago, apart from Xhaka being face on, and the pull is short and sharp, I can't really say there is a difference...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    He was still being impended from getting to the ball over a number of seconds. He went down because he was off-balance but also to emphasis the fact he was being held/impended. Unfortunately the direction a player flings himself has no bearing on the previous actions of the defender fouling the...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Can we really sit in front of young referees and tell them this was 50/50 and shouldn't have gone to VAR :redcard:
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    It's annoying not because I'm an Arsenal fan which I'm not, but as referees we lose credibility when we say things like the Jesus one was 50/50 and not enough for VAR to get involved. He's clearly impended, it's holding and it's a penalty, if not in real time by Jones which is understandable, it...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    No what I really mean is when I referee I hold my hands up if I've made an error and I don't make excuses. The Saka dive caution smacks of an official that was a bit let's say off his game today and out of his depth. The Saka advantage one makes no sense and he should have pulled it back for a...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    The Gabriel Jesus one was a clear penalty. Especially if you remember the Chelsea penalty last night on Broja. Unless we are in the game here of hiding referee's mistakes, I don't think you can call the Jesus one 50/50. He's clearly being held and impended, and it has to go to VAR if Jones...
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    Southampton vs Arsenal

    Some odd decisions and refereeing in this one today. Saka yellow card for diving. Clearly wasn't a dive and within what you would card for a "dive". Penalty call on Gabriel Jesus. Two arms around the waist/holding and held back over a period of a couple of seconds. Minimum should have been a...
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